So what happened to shyvanna

Xavanic··2 votes·352 views

She used to my counter to yas top as there would be no way he could outduel her early game, now she cant even dmg him before he kills her? was shyvanna ninja nerfed riot? (PS, her w wont dmg yas if he has his shield, whats up with this?)

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Sohleks2 votes

Reworked during old jungle. Saw potential for a week. Got nerfed. Jungle reworked.

Pretty much like every other time she becomes useful for a week

Olaf is like the same champ but with ranged spammable slows and CC immunity

Xavanic1 votes

Yeah, but i dont want to play olaf, i want to play someone whos interesting thematically, not some boring copy and pasted viking

SirLapse1 votes

She became one of the top junglers immediately after that rework. In high elo as well, so not just the usual Shyvana farming all day. After jungle changes she can't sustain as well as she used to, but her dueling and mid game damage is still one of the best in the whole game. Olaf in comparison needs to get ahead and has the toolkit early rather than by mid game to do so.

Smite/Teleport top lane was what allowed top lane Shyvana to exist regardless--garbage waveclear, easy to kite (both of which already make you a useless top laner), and no good TP plays till lv6.

Linna Excel2 votes

She's pretty much been forced into jungling only ATM.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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She used to my counter to yas top as there would be no way he could outduel her early game, now she cant even dmg him before he kills her? was shyvanna ninja nerfed riot? (PS, her w wont dmg yas if he has his shield, whats up with this?)

She was thoroughly gutted all around. She's forced to jungle, and even in the jungle she's sort of shitty.

Xavanic1 votes

wtf, how exactly is it fair that all the unique champs keep getting gutted while the stale as dog shit champs like yas/zed/lee are allowed to remain overbearing asf?

Sohleks1 votes

She's so straightforward that despite her drawbacks Riot isn't serious about her high level viability. Without high level visibility she gets a limited market of players and no screentime and little attention. A lot like Garen.

Yas/Zed/Lee can execute more mechanix displaying so much skill and fun

Olaf which is "the same champ" has intense enough micro to not be overly easy so he can be good when played well

Riot also has a hard on for utility champions and "dependent carries" because it creates a gameplay model for teamwurk. So while high mechanix assassins fit one bill they don't fit that one.

They also love ranged and may never fix the difficult problem of their laning advantage because they have more depth in positioning.

Shyvana doesn't make it into any of these camps.

Xavanic1 votes

yeah, but i dont look for kit design, i want unique champs in terms of their character design, its one of the reasons i find most human champs (riven/shen/lee/zed/garen/yasuo/darius/etc.) boring asf

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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wtf, how exactly is it fair that all the unique champs keep getting gutted while the stale as dog shit champs like yas/zed/lee are allowed to remain overbearing asf?

Yeah it really sucks.

Shuyin1781 votes

Rek'Sai top is the new Shyvana top. Crazy damage, plus a useful ranged spell + sustain + true damage + (at level 6) an execute

Xavanic1 votes

Rek sais ult is fucking horrible rn, like not even kidding, might aswell just not give her an ult because i feel it would be more useful that way as i have died so often using her ult

Shuyin1781 votes

Rek'Sai's ult is fine, people are just being stupid about how they're using it.

Xavanic1 votes

It doesnt even apply its dmg 80% of the time, its pretty bad for a single target ult

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