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Dominick Destine·Feb 1, 2016·98 votes·5,118 views

It was horrid, I couldn't communicate with them and they couldn't communicate with me.... I know some people only speak pinoy, but come on man it's NA server. True Solo Queue can't come soon enough.

It's not racism to expect people to speak English on an NA server... and by the way ENGLISH IS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE yet I wouldn't be speaking spanish on NA because it wouldn't be effective communication. Basically, when is true solo queue coming?

94 Comments

Ward BaronFeb 2, 201619 votes

This has been happening more and more and it's tilting me so hard. They either don't talk or don't speak english. In general they have no interest in playing the game with you at all. They don't even live in NA.

RedCycloneFeb 2, 20168 votes

Have seen them in EuW too, a fucking nightmare to play with 4 people who can't tell what you are saying, a true Sona experience

HighH1Feb 2, 20162 votes

im sure EUW also has much more languages than NA which is 2/3 English and even many in Mexico or people who came from Mexico speak Englisj

RedCycloneFeb 2, 20166 votes

Most are not so bad by knowing some basics in english, everyone knows what "ss" is but I have no idea about "[][][][][][][][][]"

SpoofghoulFeb 2, 20168 votes

O yea the 3/4 man premades are a true nightmare on euw servers

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ITS HORRIBLE

ItsCalledALanceFeb 3, 20161 votes

lol this made me chuckle =D

Gated D LatchFeb 4, 20161 votes

except it really should be "la baguette"

(I'm french and I find it kinda funny to see a baguette as a masculin noun) looks so awkward >.<

Carpe VictoriaFeb 1, 201610 votes

I don't really care. You can play without talking and just ping for almost every rank. For some reason everyone on NA late night in low levels is Korean.

The only thing I DO CARE about is some people try to use languages people probably dont know to avoid being reported for offensive language and say some pretty bad stuff.

Dominick DestineFeb 1, 201614 votes

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You can play without talking [Communication isn't important]

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Carpe VictoriaFeb 1, 20166 votes

Do you really purely need verbal queues? You can't tell what most people are doing by their mannerisms and pings? You can't deal with it once in a while? Sure, it's not perfect but it sounds like you're making it too big of a deal that it happened once. The closest thing i can relate it to for myself is that i used to play another game very competitively and would sub in some Brazilian guilds that spoke Portuguese mostly. It was fine to deal with here and there.

How does EU deal with multiple languages?

YumaS2AstralFeb 2, 20162 votes

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Do you really purely need verbal queues? You can't tell what most people are doing by their mannerisms and pings? You can't deal with it once in a while? Sure, it's not perfect but it sounds like you're making it too big of a deal that it happened once. The closest thing i can relate it to for myself is that i used to play another game very competitively and would sub in some Brazilian guilds that spoke Portuguese mostly. It was fine to deal with here and there.

How does EU deal with multiple languages?

But communication is somewhat important. There are things that you just can't explain with pings. For example, what if the enemy mage is fed and you want to warn to your tank top laner to build magic resistance so that they can counter that fed mage in the mid game? You can't do that just with pings. You need to speak to them.

Dominick DestineFeb 2, 20167 votes

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Do you really purely need verbal queues?

Yes, communication is important. The ability to talk to your team and them to talk to you is extremely important.

TransgressorFeb 2, 20163 votes

EU doesn't deal with multiple languages. You seem to be under the impression we have small to none communication issues. Well I'm here to let you know the truth is far from that, far enough to fit our universe in the gap.

Do you really purely need verbal queues? You can't tell what most people are doing by their mannerisms and pings?

You can't tell someone "hey, don't overxtend there like an idiot without wards dude, come back and regroup with the team", with mannerisms and pings. You can't tell someone "well done yo, that was a great play", or "nice teamwork mate, thanks for the help".

You can't deal with it once in a while?

Just because you get constipated every now and then, doesn't mean you have to deal with it and not try some fibers for your 2 next meals or something.

And nobody said he's not dealing with it. He just doesn't like it. One doesn't exclude the other.

OrangesilkFeb 3, 20161 votes

Korean drones farming accounts for the NA toxic shitbags who keep getting their accounts banned.

It's very probably that OPs premade was a bunch of Korean eloboosters who figured out working together gives them an easier job.

It's all a consequence of the shitbags.

Dominick DestineFeb 1, 20164 votes

No one else has had this annoying/terrible experience?

AnnoxisFeb 1, 20164 votes

I am on the European Server. I don't want to count the number of times things like that happened.

AndrionarFeb 1, 20163 votes

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Dominick DestineFeb 1, 201612 votes

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opa gangam style.

That's korean man, that's not pinoy. Pinoy is philipines.

CubedJusticeFeb 2, 20165 votes

Actually, Pinoy is on the Copenhagen Wolves

EboybiterKDAFeb 1, 20163 votes

it's na server. exactly. so if you are in the NA region you play on it for lowered ping. Not if you speak the NA language you play on it.

Dominick DestineFeb 2, 20162 votes

English it not my native language, but I speak it anyway on NA server because communication is important.

Being stuck on a team with people that are pinoys speaking only their native language kind of bones any non pinoy on the team... and there's nothing wrong with it if it was 5 man premade, that's fine.... but being the odd man out is extremely unpleasant. NA = English. Again this is coming from a non native english speaker.

EboybiterKDAFeb 2, 20162 votes

I can tell English isn't your first language cause I said people that are LOCATED in NA PLAY IN NA. Communication is important but what good is it if you can all speak the same language but all can't react and move your champ because your ping is so high? have you considered that before whining? NA does not = English. NA means North America. It is a location.

use some logic please.

Penguin EclipseFeb 2, 20163 votes

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I can tell English isn't your first language cause I said people that are LOCATED in NA PLAY IN NA. Communication is important but what good is it if you can all speak the same language but all can't react and move your champ because your ping is so high? have you considered that before whining? NA does not = English. NA means North America. It is a location.

use some logic please.

NA means Canada and US. Those are the only two countries that are supposed to play on NA. Every other country in North America is supposed to play on LAN and will have a better ping on LAN. Everyone living in the US and Canada should be able to speak English. So your points, all of them, are irrelevant or just plain wrong.

KillerKellFeb 3, 20163 votes

I love how people miss that.

NA is, indeed, the USA and Canada.

Mexico is the northern most of Central America.
Then you have South America.

NA doesn't mean "Mexico and North".

Now, I have no problem with Mexicans, or Spanish Speaking... but when some one says "NA doesn't mean English", well... yeah, it does.

Official Language of America: English. Official Languages of Canada: English and French. In which Signs have to be in BOTH languages.

Ergo, NA means English, which is the only Shared Official Language of the Nations that make up the NA.

Not that difficult.

That being said, if people are speaking Spanish or French, I try to communicate the best I can and deal with it. Not like it happens every game.

EboybiterKDAFeb 3, 20161 votes

I love how missed the point of how NA is a location where people in the NA location play. If there was an American capable of only speaking english living in japan, which do you think he would want to play on? The japanese server (where his ping would be great and he can play his champ with good micro) or the american server (where he would have delay and can't dodge any skill shots or land any skills shots)?

The first priority is not to communicate with the team. The first priority is that you can actually play and move ur champ adequately. If you aren't playing on the server you are located in, than you can't even move adequately. What good is it to communicate with your team but you can't cs, can't hit skill shots, feed the opponent laner cause you can't position yourself every few seconds.

KillerKellFeb 3, 20161 votes

Cowsep plays in Japan, he's a First Language English Speaker.

Guess what he did. He learned to speak, read and write Japanese (of course, he TEACHES English there... helps to know a language of the people you are teaching).

So yeah, if I'm in a Foreign Country, I take it as my responsibility to show them the honor of learning at least some of their language.

When in Rome... I don't demand they speak English.

So yeah, I think you'd make learning to communicate on the Server part of your Improving Play requirements. So if I'm in Japan, and I need to Communicate, I don't jump into Competition Play where Communication is vital until I can properly communicate.

EboybiterKDAFeb 4, 20161 votes

you are so delusional about the Japanese language. I'm FROM japan, born and raised there.

There is 50,000 characters in the Japanese language. Even native japanese speakers don't have a full grasp of the kanji's out there. Secondly, cowsep knows korean, a completely different language root from Japanese. You are really showing how little you know about languages if you think those two are anything similair.

Most importantly COWSEP is a TEACHER. He didnt learn korean to play league in korea. He learned korean to teach more effectively and understand the people he is teaching. Teaching in korea was HIS JOB. If you are going to pay all the non-english speakers on NA money, than I am sure they will learn english for you. But since playing league of legends is not their job, why would you waste an eternity learning a language? (and btw, asian-language speaking people have it much harder to learn english than any european-language speaking people.) And If you hopped on the japanese server, there is no chance of you learning that language in under a year. No chance.

No one learns a language to play league of legends. What kind of world do you live in where league of legends revolves around you're entire life style? I've never been to the states but I'm pretty sure league of legends isn't part of the school curriculum.

KillerKellFeb 4, 20161 votes

I'll type slowly so you can follow along.

One of the reasons the many Foreign Countries cite for disliking visiting Americans is because there is a stereo-type that we expect the Foreign Countries to speak OUR Language... despite being in THEIR Country.

I'm not one that holds such a belief... as I said, when in Rome do as the Romans.

So if you go to France... be prepared to speak French. You go to China, break out the Mandarin.

You go to an NA Server... be ready to Speak English.

Not a hard concept.

If I wanted to play on the Korean Server... I'd look into learning a bit of Korean. The stuff that can get me by, like "Where is the bathroom", "I'd like the Fried Rice" and "Flanking to Dive the ADC!"

It should be incumbent on the Guest to learn the Host Language. That goes for American's on Non-English Servers as well, I get just as pissed at those guys.

So I'm not going to visit your house in Japan, and expect you and your family (since you are FROM Japan) to speak English. I'm going to take it upon myself to HONOR my HOST, by speaking their language.

What's difficult about that concept?

You don't have to be able to read the original copies of "The Art of War", but have the common decency to get some BASICS DOWN.

In League, we all know those Basics. "Backing!" "Baron Call!" "Dragon!" "Disengage!" "Shopping/Items!"

I'm not saying some one should learn the entire damn dictionary, but if you are on a Server that has a Majority Language (like NA has), then have the common decency to be able to communicate in that Language. If you can't, then regulate yourself to the Ping System.

This isn't earth shattering, or rocket science. I would expect this for EVERY Server, and every GUEST of those Host Servers.

It is FAR easier for that one person to pick up the Host Language enough to communicate things like "Engage!" than it is for the Host to learn every Visiting Language, yes?

EboybiterKDAFeb 4, 20161 votes

I'll type slowly so you can follow the concept. Life doesn't revolve around league. If a japanese kid moves to NA because of their parents job, it's not his fault for not being able to speak english.

Is this hard to understand? Or do you want people to move and live in the region where they can speak that regions language fluently? You want someones life to revolve around playing league?

and stop molding the "when in rome do as romans do" to fit one specific trait. cause if that was the case I can say "when in america be as racist as americans are". which would lead to me also saying "like a self-centered american who stirs race problems within their country, why should I show the courtesy of learning and understanding another nations language?" owneeeed

KillerKellFeb 4, 20161 votes

If a Kid moves to a new Country... yeah, probably should learn the language. Going to help as he goes to an English Speaking School, and will eventually Graduate and go to an English Speaking Job.

Is that hard for you to understand?

Just like when my Family moved to Germany when I was 6 (Military), I learned German. Because I was in Germany. It was sort of their Language.

So no, not hard for me to understand at all. The kid in your theory should absolutely learn English, being he moved to America.

You owned nothing, and only showed more ignorance. I've stated nothing racist, and you've made a generalization about Americans... which is a pretty much what you're trying to say about Americans. Nice hypocrisy.

Lastly, have fun going to a Country with a different language and not being able to communicate because you are to stubborn to learn their Language. Have fun with that.

Yes, when you go to a place it is on YOU to learn the ways of that place. Don't expect to go to Germany and have them speak in Japanese to you... that would be idiotic to expect. Just like it would be idiotic for a German to visit you in Japan and say "Hey, idiot... why aren't you talking to me in GERMAN???".

He'd be in YOUR Country, he'd need to speak YOUR Language... it shouldn't be on you to learn the Language of everyone that visits your Country.

EboybiterKDAFeb 4, 20161 votes

god so fail. this is why I can tell English isn't you're native language. let me make this purely simple so that you can follow. did you learn german so that you can play a video game? or did you learn german to LIVE and GET BY in germany?

owned.

KillerKellFeb 7, 20161 votes

LMAO! English IS my Native Language. I was born in Birmingham, AL.

I've spoke English my entire life... I learned German because we went to Germany where my Father and Mother were stationed, being in the Army.

EboybiterKDAFeb 9, 20161 votes

please tell me when you ever learned a language just to play a online video game.

OWNEEEEEDDD

KillerKellFeb 13, 20161 votes

If I made the decision to play on a Server that used another Language, I would learn to communicate in their language.

Instead, I choose to play on Servers that use English, which I already speak.

As I've stated numerous times... if you are going to use something that has an established language, learn the language. The obvious alternative is to use something where the established language is your language.

You seem to have a very hard concept with language... you don't seem to understand at all what 'owned' means.

EboybiterKDAFeb 7, 20161 votes

helloooooooooo. did you learn german to play an online video game? or did you learn it so that you can live and get by in Germany?

the fact you aren't answering just shows how ridiculous your post is.

KillerKellFeb 7, 20161 votes

Wow... do you have a problem with comprehending what you read?

If you want to play on a Server, or if you want to live in a Country... EITHER ONE, BOTH OF THEM... LEARN THE LANGUAGE.

The fact I wasn't answering... was because I was driving to my next job. But nice logic leap there as well.

EboybiterKDAFeb 7, 20161 votes

hellooooooooooo. can you answer the question. did you learn german to play an online video game?? Did you learn ANY language just to play a video game?

NO? so why would u expect anyone else to do so?

owned. logic owned. so hard

KillerKellFeb 13, 20161 votes

If I made the decision to play on a Server that used another Language, I would learn to communicate in their language.

Instead, I choose to play on Servers that use English, which I already speak.

You seem to have a very hard concept with language... you don't seem to understand at all what 'owned' means.

KillerKellFeb 24, 20161 votes

You seem to have a hard time understanding written words.

If I made the decision to play on a Server with another Language, I'd learn enough of the Language to Communicate.

The fact that I haven't went out of my way to play on a Server with a different language is the key here. If I chose to do so, then I would learn the Language of the Server I chose to play on.

So yes, I would fully expect myself to learn French if I played on a French Server... just as I fully expect some one to be able to comprehend and express themselves in English on an English Server.

I'm not sure how you fail so utterly hard at this.

You see, there is a REASON I didn't play On Line Video Games in Germany... I didn't speak German well enough to communicate effectively on those Forums. If you can't speak it, don't play on it. I could have a conversation, sure... but fast typing of specific in game instructions, not a chance.

You know why I'm not on a Korean Server? Because I don't speak Korean. Would make things rather difficult for myself and those I play with. So instead, I play on a Server where I can UNDERSTAND what's being said, and where they can understand me.

You may need to invest in a Dictionary... you keep using 'logic' and I don't think you understand what it means.

Lestara BuvelleFeb 2, 20162 votes

I'm confused do you want true solo q or are you upset that some people can't speak English on NA? It is not against the rules to use a language besides English.

TransgressorFeb 2, 201616 votes

Nobody ever mentioned something about rules.

What he said is that speaking everything else appart from what the overwhelming majority does, it makes it extremely hard to communicate. He said he could speak his own language too, but that wouldn't benefit the game in any way, so he wishes people would actually get out of their way once in a while to at least put the effort into communicating in the game, just like he does.

He juxtaposed the fact that premades who give zero shit about communication in a team game(in our case by spamming in an alphabet even his client couldn't recognize), are making the games really hard since there's no way and willingness to communicate. Thus concluded he wants the true soloQ, where nobody's will be premade with anyone to hinder communication.

Which is understandable and expected. You're on the NA server, you're supposed to speak what's spoken in North America, which is mostly english. If you feel like english is not your thing, and you still have to force it down your teammates' throats, you can chose another server where spamming whatever language you like, won't ruin the game from those who are not in your group.

My personal note: Ya'll don't know jack fucking shit about horrible communication. You should see the freaking chat here in EUNE; english, greek, polish, russian, dutch, turkish, lebanese, german, ukranian, romanian... All of them with their distinct english alphabet infusions. You'd wish it was filled with white boxes instead.