EoN is still strong but can we stop using Banshees Veil as a reference point to nerf it.

Skorch··5 votes·848 views

EoN and Banshees are drastically different items. Yes they both give a spellshield but that doesnt make them similar enough to base of.

Again, I AM NOT DEFENDING EDGE OF NIGHT BEING BROKEN, it is definetly strong right now (although i think EoN is broken because of the Lethality being overloaded not the spellshield)

EoN is an item for an assassin, it has a channel before activation because the assassin is supposed to be the one to dictate when he wants to go in and assassinate. The Issue with edge of night is because of the lethality ADCs are building it and throwing it on before a fight as long as they see it coming. (If they dont have time to see it coming aka an assassin they wont have time to throw it on.)

Banshees is a (in my opinion currently underpowered) usually tank item that has a passive spellshield that has a long CD because it is able to stop engage CC, if Varus ults you can jump in front of it with your banshees, or if a annie tries ulting you from a bush you wont get stunned and you can get away. You dont have to prepare it.

On top of that Banshees is built on tanks, meaning if they only need to be saved once in a while. EoN is (most likely) meant to be ready for every assassination attempt an assassin tries.

We need to look at EoN and compare it to other assassin items, assassin item actives, and spellshield healthyness overall (sivir/nocturne >.>) Instead of a tank item that shares a similar mechanic.

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Irelia Bot3 votes

No since EoN is proving to be a more preferred similar effect item to BV.

Skorch1 votes

If it was more preferred Tanks would be buying it over BV as it would be a more effective item all around.

Irelia Bot1 votes

I don't even see tanks buying BV that often in the game currently.

Skorch1 votes

As i said banshees feels really weak right now, i only buy it when i need mr on a non healing champion.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

When will people realize that Lethailty is weaker then flat Armor pen was?

The reason we think it's stronger is because its being combo with Black Cleaver and Last Whisper

Skorch1 votes

It IS weaker, but still too strong right now. With the stats Lethality items give, the bonus damage efficiency compared to ADC Crit items and the such early on is WAY better. Meaning ADCs dont have to wait to get 70% crit before they become REALLY threatening, they can just kill you early.

Since assassins are SUPPOSED to do that Lethality is balanced for them. It is just TOO strong on ADCs right now. Besides i dont see people complaining the Talon having a lot of lethality, it is usually the MF/Jhin/Varus.

Tenth Leper1 votes

Why shouldn't banshee's veil be up for every tanking attempt the tank tries then?

Skorch1 votes

Thats kind of why i said Banshees feels weak right now. But also because an assassin can use it to escape CC after diving etc. But a tank can just walk away. A tank doesnt NEED a spellshield to survive CC, but an assassin dodging a single CC could save his life. As well as all round stat wise i feel like besides the lethality it provides EoN is weaker than BV. BV blocking a spell for a tank is just "Oh hey 1 down the rest of their CC on me to go"

I feel like Riot would balance EoN around the idea that it would be up when they gank. If it had a long CD an assassin would just wait longer to gank. So Riot gave it a short CD so they can gank if they want every 45 or so (used to be 30) seconds.

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