How is it ok for a 0/7 Vayne to carry a game? How?
"BUT THEY NERFED HER! SHE'S NOT THAT GOOD NOW!"
Shut the fuck up. Nerf her all you want, Riot. But you're not going to do anything. Nerfing her cooldowns and her damage or whatever isn't even making a difference.
Her kit is stupidly overpowered for an ADC. That's what you should look into. Not her damage
Pika Fox7 votes0/7 means nothing.
How much CS did she have? How long did the game go on? Did you stupidly believe you could just 1v1 her because she was 0/7 but had 200 CS?
The reality is if she was 0/7 but "carried", then you failed to end the game properly, and she wasnt as far behind as you expected.
Ahri Baka3 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RPupWyQJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-16T13:17:24.468+0000)
0/7 means nothing.
How much CS did she have? How long did the game go on? Did you stupidly believe you could just 1v1 her because she was 0/7 but had 200 CS?
The reality is if she was 0/7 but "carried", then you failed to end the game properly, and she wasnt as far behind as you expected.
Not really , a 7/0 Cait with 300 CS Can completely get deleted by a 200 CS Vayne
Pika Fox4 votesVaynes a duelist/assassin type ADC.... of course vayne can. Thats literally her job. Assassins kill ADCs. Why is cait 1v1ing vayne? Why is anyone 1v1ing vayne? Thats bronze tier play.
Done252 votesThen the question is, how do you kill an ADC assassin? Can't send the tanks after her since her Silver Bolts will tear through them like paper. Only "Nuke" levels of mage burst can be used against her reliably.
Pika Fox2 votesThe same way you kill an assassin.... you teamfight. Vayne is terrible in a straight up teamfight. Unless she gets a proper flank off on a prime target, shes going to end up dead. Her stealth doesnt last forever and her primary CC is single target and is conditional.
datfatguy3 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RPupWyQJ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-16T15:24:11.881+0000)
Thats literally her job. Assassins kill ADCs.
Yes, they do. But why is it much easier for a fucking RANGED ASSASSIN to do her job better than a normal assassin such as Zed or Kha? The fact that she can stand at a safe range and instakill her targets is not ok.
"BUT LEBLANC!!!!"
She needs to land abilities to be usefull, something Vayne doesn't have to do
Pika Fox1 votes? Vayne is a duo lane champ so a lot of the team's resources are put into ensuring she gets farm. Thats the biggest difference between her and the other 2.
And kha is doing well right now anyway. Zed is perfectly playable too.
Its not "easier" for vayne to do anything. She still has the same weaknesses assassins tend to have.
Purgë4 votesshe is broken the nerfs to her ult didnt do jackshit cause she one shot u with her Q auto anyways
Daddy Ants1 votesshe is broken the nerfs to her ult didnt do jackshit cause she one shot u with her Q auto anyways
No she can't.
Hasn't been able to since 7.19
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Not really , a 7/0 Cait with 300 CS Can completely get deleted by a 200 CS Vayne
Oh no a duelist doing what she's designed to!
Cowgirl Ed4 votesfucking idiots keep saying "vayne is op" the problem is vayne is OP because she needs TEAMWORK to be stopped, something nobody wants to do in this pathetic shit of game
if it was for me, i'd disable her from the game till solutions are found (the same issue is found also in other similar champions)
Ahri Baka3 votesShe needs a rework They would use the excuse " but Vayne winrate dropped after her latest nerf" I bet it dropped just because Vayne maibs be like : FUCK RITO WHY YOU NERF VAYNE everytime they dir or something Vayne never needed her ult in most cases and can still easily kill like nothing happened.
Bârd2 votesVayne is not OP. She's playable, but that's about it.
She was 0/7, yet you let the game stretch on for 40 minutes so she hit full build. Vayne didn't win that game because she's strong. Vayne won that game because you didn't end. Vayne won that game because you gave it to her.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votesAt what stage of the game? Did you let the game drag for 35+ minutes? Did she get free farm the whole game? Could she get her items?
You guys need to realise KDA means jack shit late game, KDA is just to boost your item speed, to finish the game fastee. If you let a late game champ stack his item he will be effective regardless of how much he fed, finish game next time.