To anyone who has an issue with Lee Sim being buffed, look at it this way:

HateDaddy··15 votes·969 views

Let's put in into perspective because we often hear the term "favoritism" thrown around with this champion. And while that may have been true in the last, it's not now. Lee has been garbage all season and for much of last season after being nerfed. So please, be objective here and consider that while yes, Lee is frustrating as fuck to play against, he's hardly a balance problem anymore.

For all the "favoritism" he receives, this is the most nerfed champion in league of legends history. Think of all the stuff he has had taken away from him. Think of all the nerfs he's received to his numbers. I'm not saying these weren't justified but what I am saying is that this hardly suggests they play favoritism.

I am aware that Lee has been a polarizing champion and yes, a well played Lee Sin is frustrating as fuck. But in today's league of legends, Lee Sin offers very little carry potential, contrary to popular belief. He's basically forced to give all his kills away because he scales like shit into late game. He's forced to gank hard early, making his play pattern incredibly predictable. As the game goes on, having a Lee on your game becomes a bigger liability.

Now, you can certainly argue that such a volatile power swing isn't good for the game. I won't dispute that. But let's not pretend that Lee doesn't have weaknesses or that he's even a top 5 jungler right now because he isn't. He's not even a top 10 in all probability. This isn't season 3/4 Lee Sin, he's had a lot of power taken away and he hardly dominates the game the way people think he does. When it boils down to it, he's a popular, flashy champion that nerds like to play to make themselves feel cool. Whatever, to each their own. But this champion is hardly the problem he used to be. Please be real.

There are way more problematic champions in this game right now, so let's focus on them. cougu anivia cough nidalee cough Illaoi cough

18 Comments

specter4247 votes

I don't see how anyone could complain about Lee Sin these days when Yasuo, Graves, Nidalee and friends exist in their current state

HateDaddy6 votes

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I don't see how anyone could complain about Lee Sin these days when Yasuo, Graves, Nidalee and friends exist in their current state

Yasuo is fine now that bruiser yasuo is dead

Maximum Morde4 votes

Illaoi is only problematic if you pick a melee lane into her. Pick just about any random ranged and shit down her throat. Of course that touches on another issue altogether with ranged vs melee.

Sire Hippington2 votes

Of course that touches on another issue altogether with ranged vs melee.

And with juggernaut vs melee and the extreme case of juggernaut vs ranged.... The concept of juggernauts is just some reallly binary bullshit.

Dracocrash3 votes

lee sin mains tend to have a winrate hovering around 50%...

I really don't know why people want him nerfed and at this point im too afraid to ask.

Jacknife2 votes

My problem with the whole thing isn't that they're buffing Lee again, it's that they're doing it FOR WORLDS. It's the most watched competitive LoL event of the year, and Lee-Sin has been a popular(or at least strong) pick for almost all of them. YOU DON'T NEED LEE SIN TO HAVE AN INTERESTING PRO MATCH RIOT. You are right that it's not as big a deal as it used to be, but it's still annoying how around this time they always pull the BUFF LeeSin switch.

Captain Aishi1 votes

coming next, triforce, corki and orianna buffs! :P

Captain Aishi2 votes

they can buff lee as much as they want so long as they get around to REMOVING THE SUPRESS ON HIS ULT CAST >:( if he can flash during the animation to change the direction i'm being kicked in, I should be able to flash to change the direction i'm being kicked in as well!

Calabok1 votes

Yasuo is scum. and it's 'Lee Sin'

HateDaddy2 votes

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Yasuo is scum. and it's 'Lee Sin'

Yes it won't let me fix the topic, thanks for your irrelevant banter.

ViiLLAiN1 votes

graves is beyond broken idk why riot cant just make him a adc again and be done with the bullshit ass broken ass rework they made for him... like really his rework was probably the worst thing I have ever seen in this game... we already don't have a lot of adc to pick from because half of them are garbage and only a handful can actually be played well.

So I have no idea why they took graves away from bot lane and threw him top and jungle just doesn't make any sense to me lol because now they have this champion where they are having a hard time balancing

Bellows1 votes

I object, Nidalee is not a problem.

JafarThePanda3 votes

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I object, Nidalee is not a problem.

I wish I could build just a item 1410 for my only damage item and chunk a tank with 300 MR with one spear as Gragas

LankPants1 votes

My argument against Lee Sin buffs has always been that he is still the most picked jungler in solo queue with a solid pickrate in pro play, tending to hover around the 5-6th most picked recently. I just don't see how you can justify buffs to a champ who is so persistently picked.

I'm also 90% sure that the S tier jungles at worlds will Nid, Elise and Lee. It's only logical, with Rek'sai getting nerfed the next best at her role will come in and I'm fairly sure the Rek'sai nerfs are big enough to push her down a tier.

These are the reasons I take issue with the Lee Sin buffs and I'm fairly certain that given ~2 months people will be reacting to Lee in much the same way as they are to Yasuo. It's only reasonable too, most people hate any champ when they're in every single game.

Mystic Buttthole1 votes

Most nerfed Gangplank ?

Hello Georgie1 votes

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Most nerfed Gangplank ?

not even close

warpenguin5551 votes

As normal, your analysis of the situation is pretty spot on. take an upvote

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

What's wrong with Anivia?

She goes oom in like 5 seconds and is as slow as a glacier.

Illaoi is not much faster and all her attacks are predictable and depend on remaining stationary.

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