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Stephenizgod··3 votes·667 views

Played a few games as Yorick recently, he is kind of fun. I did have a few issues with him though.

Issues:

  • First his Ghouls are stupid, they dont know what they are doing and half the time they just run at the enemy champion without even dealing damage.

  • Second his ult is a lame version of Morde's ult, it seems like it would be much better because it turns a 5v5 into a 6v5 but the ghost is pretty inconsequential to a fight or as far as ive seen it hasnt helped all that much except to bring a teammate back for a bit more fun.

  • Third his W's slow is crap, it doesnt help him catch up to his enemy unless he already Q'd but then he doesnt have his Q to hit them with... ? ....

  • Fourth while i think his E is fine I kind of wish it had longer cast range and did a bit more damage per auto but meh.

  • Fifth his mana issues compared to his damage output, spends way more mana then most champions for the amount of damage he does. Not to mention he is reliant on his Ghouls to not be stupid for his damage to succeed, most people just kite them or run them into turret until Yorick runs out of mana then they go in. Otherwise they just go in and kill him because he relies on poke.

I know there is a rework coming for him in the far off distant future and that you do not know what to do with him, but until then he could use some very small light buffs (and maybe compensation nerfs) to help him stay viable.

Possible Buffs:

  • So first thing i would buff is his W, tbh id rather just change it, but if we are just talking buffs here then id increase its slow. Not the initial slow though, just the reapplying slow. I would make it so the slow is increased for each nearby Ghoul or Revenant. This way the non mobile slow Yorick has a way to keep up his damage or escape rather then "oh they flashed/dashed? welp i now have absolutely no hope of ever catching them". It also forces him to constantly use mana in order to keep up the slow.

  • Next id make it so his Q only summons a Ghoul if there is a nearby enemy champion, if there is then the summoned Ghoul will head straight for them. If he hits them directly with the Q it will summon 2 Ghouls, his passive will work with the second Ghoul. This helps him with poke and dueling but comes at the cost of some of his waveclear. I think its a fair trade both ways.

  • His E is totally fine as is, but for the sake of buff buff buff ill give it a lil something fun ;D. His E Ghoul will gain bonus life and time for each enemy unit it kills (meaning it can survive the whole game if you let it constantly kill things somehow...) if it is killed it will explode dealing damage based on how many units it killed before dying. If its timer runs out then 10% of the stacks it gained will be added to the next E. The cooldown starts when the Ghoul disappears or dies.

  • The ultimate is in need of a total rework, i dont think it needs buffs or nerfs :I. If i had to buff it id say to allow you and your teammates to use Summoner Spells as a Revenant.

Now are these buffs ideal or perfect or the great solution to all his problems? No not at all, but they are kind of fun to think about :)

EDIT: So i was rereading this and i asked myself "well with my buffs how would Yorick get his E to explode on people?" so i decided to make it so his Q ghouls will mark the enemy champion for X amount of time. Ghouls will focus marked targets. Alternative would be for the E to just attack whatever target Yorick is attacking.

18 Comments

TerraRising1 votes

While I would agree with you, in theory, that Yorick could use a few positive changes, I can guarantee you that nothing positive will happen to him until the rework hits sometime in 2017 (or later).

Most of the staff at Riot consider Yorick to be "bad for the game if he's dominant." He's a lane bully who is not fun to play against when he's ahead and has an with an ult that used to crash servers (not just individual games but the actual game server).

Also, most of Riot's staff have publicly called Yorick "the biggest mistake we ever made," "a champion we never believed in" and "a champion we would love to delete to make the game better." There are also numerous statements by Riot staff, on record, that include the phrase "F*#@ Yorick!" when talking about him.

Riot won't promote Yorick (no free week and no new skins in over four years), buff him, or do anything that will draw attention to the champion. So while your post was well thought out and crafted and would be considered for any other champion in the game, it's wasted on the Grave Digger.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yeah I know, but it still fun to think up fun buffs for him :) Riot should hire me and put me in charge of reworking him i would turn him into the best champions haha. Also Morde... as a Morde player i would like to fix him...

TerraRising1 votes

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Yeah I know, but it still fun to think up fun buffs for him :) Riot should hire me and put me in charge of reworking him i would turn him into the best champions haha. Also Morde... as a Morde player i would like to fix him...

Why not try to apply, just add your theories on champion design and balance with your resume.

Stephenizgod1 votes

:) i don't think it do me any good haha besides im more of a champion designer rather then a balance guy, i got like 30 concepts on the boards although no one seems to enjoy them lmfao.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

i think theyre working on him.

but they said hes going to get a large scale gameplay and visual update. so its gonna take a while.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yup i know,, im just having fun

And l Helped1 votes

I like Yorick a lot, makes me feel like a Necromancer. Should make him more like a Necromancer.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yea Necro was my fav Diablo char, then Witch Doctor, then Nazeebo in HotS.

GastonBarnacles1 votes

Yorick is strong man. Muramana, hydra, tank. Your aoe dmg destroys ppl. You need to go ham in fights and ult yourself if youre heavily focused. Mana costs after tear are quite fine. If his abilities had better range they would be even more oppressive in lane with him poking you under tower. He is very weak to ganks so ward. Also his slow is kinda meh but thats why you kill their jungler and top for a double and grt red buff from em. Allso cdr lets you spam his slow so it becomes almost a perma slow.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Mhm but his playstyle is quite boring, and just because he can be strong does not mean his kit is balanced. My buffs would come with appropriate nerfs in order to enforce what im trying to do. Im trying to lessen the similarities of his 3 abilities and focus on the individual attributes of Famine, Pestilence, and War.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Yorick is already strong. Strong, but boring. He can literally spam ghosts after ghosts after ghosts with a simple point & click move just to annoy all melee champions, even against a Teemo. He will definitely not have any buffs at all til his rework comes in.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yes he is strong like bull and indeed he is equally boring. Thats why i wanted my buffs to change his play style. I think i kind of did that, he doesnt just spam ghosts anymore, he works with his E to get it nice and big then tries to blow it up on them using his W slow. His Q also helps with his ghoul spamming.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

You know he's strong, yet you still propose unreasonal buffs on him.

  • If you want to increase the slow on his W, most of its base damage has to go. It'll just seem too toxic having to deal both massive slows & damage at the same time.

  • I wouldn't touch his Q. First, he had a recent buff that his next AA would have more range to deal some poke. Additionally, the Q ghoul can help him solo-push lanes faster when splitpushing(as in proccing on nearby minion).

  • Majority of people will always max E on Yorick. It's his only lane sustain, plus the ghoul would make him a little more tankier thanks to his passive. Do note that his ghoul will still grant HP to Yorick for each AA it deals. So no, there's no need for that extra kit to make the ghoul itself sustain longer, especially with that unnecessary wtf "explosion" thingy. Like, as if having a ghoul that grants HP by splatting on enemy's face isn't detrimental enough.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Wowowow calm yourself child this is just for fun... Besides obviously my buffs are intended to change his gameplay, he would be reasonably nerfed in order to push him in that direction... You are taking this way to seriously, what happened to people just wanting to have conversation on something... everyone just screams and yells at what they dont like.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Cz posting this in a Gameplay & Balance instead of Memes & Games just says you were actually considering to be serious about it, especially the length of your thread. It's nowhere sounded as "just for fun".

Stephenizgod1 votes

Im not joking, i think pushing Yorick away from spamming ghouls into actually using the ghouls for different things is the correct way to buff him. My buffs are legit, i am legitimately offering up my ideas for a buff, but at the same time i know absolutely nothing will come from this other then nice conversations with other people to see what they think. Thus its all just for fun, but i do want to have a serious conversation on my ideas. You are not having a nice conversation with me though, you are being quite aggressive...

ninjaIRL 1 votes

Yeah, he really needs that reworks ASAP. They're having trouble implementing the theme of undead army summoner because it would be too boring or simply too OP, I think.

I think you could do a Juggernaut build on Yorick and be useful. item 3742 item 3053 item 3748 item 3071 item 3065 or item 3102 item 1320 or item 1305

Stephenizgod1 votes

Dead Man's Plate is pretty good on him and Sterak's Gage can be useful. He needs Tear though due to his god awful mana problems. Visage is fun to help him heal.

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