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We need more AS items not tied to crit, AP, or sheen.

Gosh Darn··9 votes·737 views

Since the removal of Zephyr there has been no AS item not tied to expensive on-hit damage ( item 3153 item 3124 item 3115 item 3091 ), critical chance, or sheen (best AS item atm is trinity force).

I like playing AD yi. Not crit yi and not on-hit yi. I can't build bloodthirster as a semi-defensive item without feeling like I'm wasting gold on BotRK for too much lifesteal. Wit's end is okay but the point of AD is to scale well with AS and abilities. I'd rather pay for pure AS than on-hit damage. Even with Botrk and Serker's greaves it's still not as much AS as I'd like. Even on champions that are AD casters, as your AD gets higher, additional AS becomes a lot more efficient for increasing DPS.

Several other AA based champions like Aatrox Irelia Gnar Jax Olaf Shaco Shyvana Trundle Tryndamere XinZhao Warwick Volibear could also use more options, even if it isn't 100% necessary for their build.

We have 3 crit AS items that fulfill the same purpose and are almost never bought together, yet we don't have a single AS item that compliments AD besides BotRK.

9 Comments

ReshiKillim2 votes

Aatrox definitely needs a rework, Shaco is completely fine as is (Shaco is one of my mains). Voli is mostly fine other than his kit being a bit dated, Shyvy needs a slight bit of ability tuning rather than new items.

And Irelia needs a rework too.

Gosh Darn1 votes

It's not really about the champions. A kit can be perfectly balanced without gaining from on-hit damage or reliance on crit builds. This thread is just about introducing an AS item that isn't tied to other stipulations.

ReshiKillim1 votes

Well yeah, I agree with that completely. Although, some of the examples you used really weren't the best.

But something that's pure AS runs the risk of being too powerful on Kog'maw, as it could potentially allow him to build less offensive items while maintaining a mostly unchanged damage output rate.

Gosh Darn2 votes

I don't think that's a problem. Kog'maw's W isn't actually super strong on it's own. It's strong because being able to proc on-hit effects 5 times per second is where the damage is coming from. In fact, a pure AS item would be bad for Kog'maw because his standard builds all put him over 2.5 AS already. If anything he wants less AS from items so he can get as much on-hit as possible.

ReshiKillim1 votes

He's got a lot of variability in his build, but it'd let him build differently than current. Kog is really strong right now for being able to proc on hit effects a lot, but if a strong, cheap, pure AS item came about, it'd give him more room to fit other items in as well.

I do agree though, I'd like to see a pure AS item as well. But it does run the danger of being too good on a Kog, enough to let him run more survivability without losing AS.

GigaPube2 votes

yes lord reshi would you like all of these reworks right now or immediately.....

BloodyTompon2 votes

There are very few who want AS that aren't served by the existing items (and you've had to include a lot of conditionals to exclude the existing items).

The Deckowner1 votes

The thing is most of the attack speed champions who doesn't use crit are super old and waiting for a rework.

GigaPube1 votes

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