I have played since December 2010 when cassiopeia was released, and lee sin is the worst thing EVER

Bruddah Mase··3 votes·456 views

I've seen xin zhao close to his release state, nocturne at release, riven at her worst, release vayne, all that shit. But nothing has ever made me feel as helpless as I do against lee sin right now. Why? Xin Zhao was linear and could be cc'd or chased at the very least, nocturne and vayne were squishy, riven could be cc'd in fights. Lee sin has ABSOLUTELY NO WEAKNESS whatsoever. His ultimate does enough damage in teamfights to single handedly wreck an entire team, he has shit loads of cc tied into it and heavy damage in 3 of his 4 abilities. He has arguably(!) the most mobility in the game and with the current build thats going around he is tanky as well. Lee sin does NOT fall off anymore, warrior/dead mans/cleaver keep kim totally relevant all game.

There's an appropriate nerf for every single ability, but I think what needs to happen is his ult base damage should go down a notch and/or his q damage should drop. His Q does 340 base damage, the highest of any basic ability in the game to my knowledge offhand, has mobility, a huge ratio, AND % damage. its by far the best basic ability in the game.

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Blue Kaozi1 votes

As much as I agree with you that his kit is overloaded he's not as much of a problem as he used to be. Yes its annoying how idiot-proof his kit can be sometimes (2nd highest movespeed class in the game + slows and 2 gapclosers) but you can play around him. I wouldn't be opposed to nerfs for him, but I don't think he NEEDS them.

Note on annoying Lee stories: im playing MF. Lee ward hops to me. I juke his almost melee range Q. Doesn't matter since his E slows in a decent area around me and he has higher MS anyway. That annoyed me more than anything

He's still melee though and while his ult does a lot of damage, he's still not great in teamfights and a decent support/tank can cc him before he gets to the squishies

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