Why is ARAM not actually all random?

KnightLakega·Nov 19, 2019·2 votes·1,565 views

What I mean is.. Why do I keep getting the same handful of champions every time? Talking about it with my friends the majority of them who play aram frequently (most of them with over 100 champs) also seem to get the same pool of champs every time as well. (Meaning the champ given to you, not which you switch out, or grab from other players who discarded)

Taken from a test of the last 30 games: (Not counting free to play champs as they always seem to be in the aram rotation of what your given and is the only wild cards if you have a small champ pool which I do on this account).

Evelynn: 7 Annie: 6 Karthus: 3 Akali: 4 Poppy: 6 Diana: 2 Leona: 2

This seems pretty apparent I keep getting the same handful of champions. Other friends seem to have the same situation where despite having over 100 champs, they get the same small handful almost every time (with a few wild ones thrown in once in awhile).

7 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonNov 19, 20193 votes

Because 30 is a small sample size and prone to error in a pool of 150+

KnightLakegaNov 19, 20192 votes

What are the chances of multiple people pulling the same 6-7 champions from a pool of 150 consistantly? Those champs may be diff for each person, but each person is pulling the same handful of champs?

Chance and logic would have it that with over 100 champs and each champ randomly drawn, even a sample size of 30 would result in wildly varying champs being pulled.

This can be easily tested and proven if you grab 100 different colored pebbles, then shook them up in a bag, and pulled 1 out took note of it, put it back in and shook the bag again, and pulled another one out. What are the chances you pull the same 5-7 rocks out in a test of doing it 30 times? Extremely small.. Yet its happening consistently.

CominTowardsYaNov 19, 20192 votes

Because Random modes suck ass and Riot doesn't want you to have more fun in another game mode than you would in Ranked 5v5. Hence no URF and no TT.

JaeusNov 19, 20192 votes

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Because Random modes suck ass and Riot doesn't want you to have more fun in another game mode than you would in Ranked 5v5. Hence no URF and no TT.

Don't forget Dominion being removed for no reason, Doom Bots not becoming a permanent difficulty option, etc.

CominTowardsYaNov 19, 20191 votes

Team builder gone. Dumb.

TT. Dumb.

The ability to pick one role. Dumb.

Old Irelia gone. Dumb.

Hexakill gone, Dumb!

To name a few.

I Like TeemoNov 19, 20191 votes

aram has 2x the free rotation of SR and most time you are very likely end up with one of those, and while it is "random" even if you own all the champions you wont ever see anything the other team has already received. but you are correct in saying its not truly random.. you dont have a 1/140 or however many champs there are that you can play chance of getting each..

i personally dont have an issue with being stuck on the same champion over and over but there are times when people dodge say ill load in with corkie and reroll into garen, the game will dodge next queue pops, ill load in with corkie again... happens

preternaturalNov 19, 20191 votes

well riot had it set to true random a while ago, but people complained that that didn't feel random enough so they made it subjective randomness, whatever that means. there's some quirks here and there but if you have all the champs the likelihood of being given the same champ back to back can occur. it is what it is.