Change Kha'Zix Q isolation

Visigoth··2 votes·2,430 views

Most would agree Khazix's underpowered.

Kha'Zix's bread and butter is his Q. But right now, it's pretty hard to do anything because it is so hard to isolate.

Does the person have a pet? (Malzahar Annie Heimerdinger Yorick), can't gank them. Only exception there is Annie pre-6 and Malzahar if he is oom and doesn't have a voidling yet.

Does the enemy have a duoQ bot lane? Can't gank them. Unless your bot lane has enough coordination to isolate a decent bot lane won't let themselves get isolated.

Hard CC or high mobility? (Riven Ahri Alistar Pantheon). As soon as you try to gank they just cc you and kill you since you're squishy or run away.

Kha'Zix, a champion who is based around adapting to the situation is become a niche pick. That is literally the opposite of what he is supposed to do. If I had to name a champion that thematically is supposed to seem versatile my first idea would be Kha'Zix. My second would be Jax but nobody cares and it's also irrelevant. But seriously, that guy is pretty versatile.

So how could Kha'Zix be "fixed" without a total rework (because it isn't his kit, just his Q).

  1. Towers no longer de-isolate champions, Kha'Zix can tower dive again.
  2. Lower isolation range. It's pretty big now.
  3. Give it a big ass AP scaling so we can have AP Kha'Zix who nukes you with Q and passive and is immortal with W heal MasterYi (kidding)
  4. Minions and pets no longer de-isolate people. No safety, except in towers and other players. It would mean Kha'Zix could actually lane, and people couldn't just be within a mile of minion and negate 90% of your damage. That is legitimately the dumbest way I can think of that negates damage.

In perspective, there is no other champion in the entire game who loses almost all of their damage by someone being next to a minion, tower, or champion. Imagine if Zed's Deathmark popped for way less damage whenever you were near a tower. It would kill him as a champion, after all, what assassin can't tower dive?

4 Comments

Fauxfire1 votes

You can't change the range and have all of those.

Visigoth1 votes

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You can't change the range and have all of those.

never said to do all. one would be fine. half of one would be fine.

killythekid1 votes

In my honest opinion, khazix is actually in a good place. He fits more into a pick comp because of his isolation damage. But that is not his only way to be played. Yes characters like Annie Malzahar Heimerdinger Elise Yorick can prevent your isolation, but out of how many Champs (I don't exactly how many)? At least 100 Champs are present in league of legends today.

  1. towers give isolation- Think about it like this, because of khazix's raw damage to isolated targets, towers provide a safe zone from him or he would never stop killing you if you were behind. Yes zed is able to tower dive due to all of his shadow mobility, but he is meant for single target kill and escape. Khazix can fit the same role, he just needs different circumstances and had more potential for kills due to his e reset. Zed all you need to do is be in range and you can go in. But with khazix you need to think through your attack more.

  2. lower isolation range- this I agree with, it would help him out quite a bit.

  3. a scaling- just no, lol

  4. minions and pets prevent isolation- this would full on break him. You could game mid or top and have kills just waiting for you. You could go into there jungle and kill them since jungle monsters wouldn't isolate them. If this was changed he would become massively broken.

Also one more thing if you have say a Janna on your team if she ultimates their team and moves them all apart, she just isolated someone for you, say thanks.

Khazix requires much more thinking to play than other characters but he is not underpowered in my opinion.

shalec1 votes

The current problem with Kha'Zix in my opinion is the fact that he does absolutely nothing if his target isn't isolated. He doesn't really fit into any composition, and in pick comps, he's outclassed. So much of his damage is loaded into his isolation, but he has no reliable way to activate it by yourself in ganks. He's just too difficult to use effectively, and what you gain really isn't worth it. There are much more reliable assassins in this game, and right now Kha'Zix isn't consistent enough to work. So, I think his isolation range should be reverted. I think this will help him immensely, because his ability to assassinate is so dependent on his isolation mechanic. Removing the ability for minions to break isolation would just break him. He'd be way too good in lane, always getting isolation off. Regarding jungle minions, they don't actually break isolation in the first place, so you can kind of counter-jungle. However, I think that at this point, they probably should just rework Kha'Zix. He's been too problematic to balance properly, and when he's good, he's too good.

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