43% winrate is NOT a reason to buff a new champsion that was released this patch

SwiftKitten88·Jul 19, 2017·9 votes·352 views

the champion is going to have an INSANE playrate... and NO ONE is going to know how to play them properly.

if they DID have a 50% win rate with know one having any experience and an crazy play rate then it WOULD be an issue.

lets not have another ...

7 Comments

TheHappyReaperzJul 19, 20175 votes

Although pretty much all of the feedback regarding Kayn's ult, is that it is too weak in SA form.

MuzétJul 20, 20171 votes

I was expecting some kind of missing or current health dmg but higher ratio should feel good.

SwiftKitten88Jul 20, 20171 votes

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Although pretty much all of the feedback regarding Kayn's ult, is that it is too weak in SA form.

i dont disagree with that. but i still don't think its time to buff him YET... lets wait until his he playrate isnt pick ban 90% of the games so we can get an accurate reading. once we can get an ACCURATE reading we can decide HOW to buff him

I am not denying that he probably needs buffs in SA form.. but i feel we should collect more data first.. or more precisely.. give people some time to play and experiment with him to find the best builds so we can get ACCURATE data.

Rockm SockmJul 20, 20171 votes

I think SA will be fine with the bug fix and Rhaast is in the right spot.

My only problem is how weak he is pre-transform and how asburdly long it takes.

Sire HippingtonJul 20, 20171 votes

The issue is that we don't have acces to the data of the seperate forms. According to riot, shadow assasin kayne performes alot worse than rhaast. So it's well possible that the shadowasassin is more around ~30%-35% win, which on a rather stright forward kit is actually a sign for needing a buff after 2weeks. He's not introduceing a completely new playstyle and niche that aligns with broken support itemisation that also was more subtle and need some time to fully get used. Also, they nerf duskblade, which is core on his assasin form(or nearly any ad champ right now, and while sudkblade and maybe even lethality as a whole is broken atm, it'S again rather clear and straight forward, so not much to learn about itemisation, it's actually more concerning that assasin kayne underperformes despite his core itemisation beeinng potentialy OP.