Where is irelia?

Death by Glamour·Feb 10, 2016·2 votes·612 views

Shes not in a bad spot

Has a decent kit and a great passive

Tonnes of damage with a tanky build path

Good into cc heavy tanks and squishies alike

Why does no one play jer anymore

11 Comments

Shadow HazardFeb 11, 20162 votes

One big reason is that Fiora is better in basically every way.

Significantly better true damage and healing. Superior dash. Better at handling incoming CC. much more utility (only fiora's q doesn't have an attached extra utility).

The other champs that are the same type as irelia all migrated to the jungle but irelia has the weakest clears of them so she isn't a good choice. The other options can also use rageblade, and can do it better than her. The ones capable of healing are much better than irelia. Vitually all of them have some form of attack speed increase which irelia has none of. Jax uses hybrid stats better than irelia.

Her passive gets increasingly weaker the more champs with displacement CC get added to the game.

At the end of it all of all the fighter type champs she needs a rework more than any of them.

RaxistaichoFeb 13, 20161 votes

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One big reason is that is better in basically every way.

Significantly better true damage and healing. Superior dash. Better at handling incoming CC. much more utility (only fiora's q doesn't have an attached extra utility).

The other champs that are the same type as irelia all migrated to the jungle but irelia has the weakest clears of them so she isn't a good choice. The other options can also use rageblade, and can do it better than her. The ones capable of healing are much better than irelia. Vitually all of them have some form of attack speed increase which irelia has none of. Jax uses hybrid stats better than irelia.

Her passive gets increasingly weaker the more champs with displacement CC get added to the game.

At the end of it all of all the fighter type champs she needs a rework more than any of them.

Pretty much this. Irelia's still very solid, she's just currently outshone.

On the plus side, Riot appears to FINALLY be taking steps to tone Fiora down, and Irelia's getting a rework sometime either late this year or next year.

Shadow HazardFeb 13, 20161 votes

I haven't seen any hints of Irelia getting looked at.

RaxistaichoFeb 13, 20161 votes

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I haven't seen any hints of Irelia getting looked at.

Meddler mentioned it during the mage rework discussion topic, I believe.

warpenguin555Feb 11, 20162 votes

im very happy people dont. i hate her guts lol

Ozag the MightyFeb 10, 20161 votes

Good question, her kit is very easy to understand and has great counter potential...I gotta ask my self the same question lol I played her like 4 times and haven't played her again...no clue why, cause I do like her.

YumifriesFeb 10, 20161 votes

Doesn't really bring much cc to a teamfight probably Her stun is situational, and there are few other champions that can do what she does a little better. Namely Fiora

Ruin LanceFeb 11, 20161 votes

because of Fiora this busted garbage is just a better version of irelia pretty much

WalkingInACircleFeb 13, 20161 votes

She's trash right now. Her build path sucks - rageblade is too slow for a first item and trinity is a lot worse than it was. She's still useless lategame, terrible at teamfighting and splitpushing because she has no escape and no way to actually stick to a target that walks away from her. And Jax and Fiora are better than her in every way.

Her passive got a lot worse because tenacity from other sources was nerfed.

EndlessSorcererFeb 13, 20161 votes

She's trash right now. Her build path sucks - rageblade is too slow for a first item and trinity is a lot worse than it was.

Her build path is currently fine, if low on attack speed. Trinity Force into Sterak's Gage is quite strong on her due to how well she uses Spellblade and how frequently she basic attacks.

If you want more attack speed on hit, Berserker Greaves are still a good option.

She's still useless lategame, terrible at teamfighting and splitpushing because she has no escape and no way to actually stick to a target that walks away from her.

At 40% CDR (which is easily achievable with Trinity Force, Frozen Heart and Spirit Visage) Irelia can easily stick to targets due to the low CD on her Q and E.

She great at diving the enemy backline during teamfights and quickly killing squishy targets which is quite useful (especially when she's diving with an assassin or another bruiser).

Her splitpushing is still quite safe since she's a good duelist and can easily disengage fights. While her waveclear is rather poor (though her ultimate is on a very low CD with CDR), she can still fight many champions who would come to oppose her and threaten the tower.

Her passive got a lot worse because tenacity from other sources was nerfed.

This is the exact opposite of what happened. Her passive tenacity has been made more valuable since tenacity from other sources has become harder to obtain.

Considering Tenacity stacks multiplicatively, she receives less tenacity from other items than other champions would.