Fighters have 1 item spike with BC, ADC got BoRK, mages got Morellos, assassins got Youmuu's

Zero Skill Tank··91 votes·4,353 views

uh oh lets gut sunfire [slayer-jinx-unamused]

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Big Lincoln76 votes

more important question is why are ADCs allowed to have a 1 item power spike?

ModKnightsKemplar4 votes

Amen to that... Bork is ridiculous rn.

SnowFall22 votes

Because otherwise it's #adc #2017 meme

RainbowIcee1 votes

Isn't it still that meme? what meme did we move into now ?

Big Lincoln4 votes

tanks in 2017

Hellen Keller2 votes

season 7 is the meme

Thefrostyviking4 votes

Because 80% of the ADC's are garbage without it x) We´ll got back to only having 3-4 of them ever played if botrk gets nerfed too much x)

Joxcab10 votes

Or you know, they just need to ACTUALLY FUCKING SCALE? As a LATE GAME hyper carry class? But yeah sure they're garbage because they aren't broken fucking cancer in early too, got it. The ignorance....

LegacyDAP1 votes

They actually do "fucking scale" they just have better early games now because bork is busted and so are a few meta ADCs that heavily abuse it (i.e. Lucian who can proc it twice with passive). ADC role isn't the problem it's the item bork itself being taken on most aa champions now. I think you're the only ignorant one here because you actually don't play ADC at all or know how the role works.

Joxcab1 votes

Do you not know how to use logic in reading? I'm saying they need to scale by getting to lategame/their items, not that they don't and need to.

LegacyDAP1 votes

"They need to scale by getting their items." They already do that, what's your point?

Joxcab1 votes

If they have a god-tier lategame, which almost all of them do, they aren't allowed to have even a slightly decent early. Lethality was an issue, but most of the Lethality users still fell off versus damage from pure crit builds in lategame. But BOTRK gives them an insanely strong early all the way through till late. Which was literally my point you were agreeing with, but still attacked me anyways for some reason.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku4 votes

Totaly agreeing... moreover this 1 item power spike scale [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Sire Hippington9 votes

I'd be totally fine with adc haveing a strpng 1 item spike IF their lategame was less insane. But haveing that strong 1 items spike and lategame godmode is a bit much.

Aimléss4 votes

Name one adc who can abuse BOTRK to have an insane early game and still have an insane late game later on. Lucian is like the only one, and though his late game isn't "Insane" it is still too good for his insane early game, Draven as well, even though he doesn't use BOTRK. The vast majority of ADCs either pick one or the other, don't come for all ADCs just for 2 fucking champs wtf?

Sire Hippington25 votes

Ashe Varus Vayne Twitch KogMaw Kalista Jinx Tristana

Bottom Laner2 votes

One of these things is not like the others~

MavenSong2 votes

Yah its the Evelynn

: ^)

Nymzo36 votes

And supports have item 2049!

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Oops... I meant item 3107 item 3190

500000000000000030 votes

3 mandatory items (excluding boots) is a fun and interactive gameplay

Gosh Darn9 votes

And having negative base AR and HP with 325 MS and 0 mobility with this build makes it extra fun.

PrinceOfStorms4 votes

Four. You have to build your support item to have any gold at all, have to build SS because otherwise your team flames you because you have no wards on the map, and you have to build Redemption and Locket because they're busted. Five if you include boots.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

item 2303 item 2302 item 2301 means you don't need an income item and a SS. Not everyone can use item 3190 and item 3107, as well (Try building Locket on Soraka, and see how that works. :P), so you really only need 3 items. Your spike is even earlier if your core item is a mandatory early one, like item 3174 on Sona, or if you're like Leona, and item 3190 is always a core item on you, anyways.

Gosh Darn3 votes

Locket is great on Soraka because she appreciates the resistances and an aoe shield compliments her aoe healing nicely.

DarkRitual17 votes

item 2045 item 1001 item 3190 item 3107 item 2055 Oh boy, one whole space for situational items. Such build freedom.

IGotScuttleCrabs25 votes

That situational item is whichever gold item you picked out

DarkRitual17 votes

Oh silly me, you are right! I guess I have a situational Elixir to buy...

morris115 votes

Don't forget the situational trinket choice item 3341 item 3364

Bottom Laner7 votes

Sunfire Cape would be a great item to have. Might have to replace it with our most recent reworked item, Sunmycharactermodelisslightlywarm Cape.

Hexs Fortune5 votes

We need a first buy tank item with 20 percent cdr to matchitem 3078 item 3071 item 3165item 3174

I Lil Axiom I23 votes

item 3110

And A Real Hiero2 votes

Change out the mana for health 1 for 1 and we have a deal.

Sqkerg4 votes

Are you high?

Who is Taliyah1 votes

No, Frozen heart needs to keep its mana, otherwise I couldn't build it on Taliyah.

And A Real Hiero2 votes

Go away Taliyah, stop ruining our early game item spikes!

Hexs Fortune10 votes

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item 3110

Health is the way to go for first item, not resistances

I Lil Axiom I11 votes

You asked for a tank item with 20% cdr...ta da

50000000000000009 votes

They did ask for a first buy tank item, and Frozen Heart is a bad item to rush in most circumstances. item 3025 is better rush item (still not great), and it gives 20% CDR.

Bottom Laner30 votes

Singed item 3110 oh look it gives health now :^)

XxxLumberJackxxX4 votes

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item 3110

Has no hp or Mr.... Get slaughtered by midlane support or jg

Sire Hippington2 votes

Even if Fh was in any good spot, it still isn't a great item to rush in many setups...

Chief Mayonnaise2 votes

Am I the only one who hates all of those items except maybe Youmuu's? Cause I really don't like any of those items. All of those are busted items.

50000000000000004 votes

I guess that's fair, although Morellonomicon is overloaded/strong because its users would be too weak without.

Jebron2 votes

That's the same case with adcs that rush a good item first though, where's the consistency?

50000000000000002 votes

I thought ADCs spike later because of their strong lategame. I think it actually makes sense to not have a one item spike for ADCs, unless they're sacrificing a huge bit of lategame DPS with that rush item.

Sagan Forever2 votes

Tanks were the same, but there item was still nerfed.[zombie-nunu-bummed]

TEA Nietzsche 2 votes

What do all these items (except for Morellos) have in common? All of them got nerfed in the recent patches.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

well to be fair, people are also asking to gut cleaver.

but yea, sunfire is trash right now.

TacoTheKitten1 votes

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Jebron2 votes

Lucian can outduel any adc on 1 item, regardless of which item Lucian has.

He does it when ER is meta, he does it when GB is meta, he does it when IE is meta and now he's doing it when BoTRK is meta.

Lucian is meant to win early fights, it's what he's good at.

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