Fighters have 1 item spike with BC, ADC got BoRK, mages got Morellos, assassins got Youmuu's
uh oh lets gut sunfire [slayer-jinx-unamused]
uh oh lets gut sunfire [slayer-jinx-unamused]
more important question is why are ADCs allowed to have a 1 item power spike?
Amen to that... Bork is ridiculous rn.
Because otherwise it's #adc #2017 meme
Isn't it still that meme? what meme did we move into now ?
tanks in 2017
season 7 is the meme
Because 80% of the ADC's are garbage without it x) We´ll got back to only having 3-4 of them ever played if botrk gets nerfed too much x)
Or you know, they just need to ACTUALLY FUCKING SCALE? As a LATE GAME hyper carry class? But yeah sure they're garbage because they aren't broken fucking cancer in early too, got it. The ignorance....
They actually do "fucking scale" they just have better early games now because bork is busted and so are a few meta ADCs that heavily abuse it (i.e. Lucian who can proc it twice with passive). ADC role isn't the problem it's the item bork itself being taken on most aa champions now. I think you're the only ignorant one here because you actually don't play ADC at all or know how the role works.
Do you not know how to use logic in reading? I'm saying they need to scale by getting to lategame/their items, not that they don't and need to.
"They need to scale by getting their items." They already do that, what's your point?
If they have a god-tier lategame, which almost all of them do, they aren't allowed to have even a slightly decent early. Lethality was an issue, but most of the Lethality users still fell off versus damage from pure crit builds in lategame. But BOTRK gives them an insanely strong early all the way through till late. Which was literally my point you were agreeing with, but still attacked me anyways for some reason.
Totaly agreeing... moreover this 1 item power spike scale [zombie-brand-mindblown]
I'd be totally fine with adc haveing a strpng 1 item spike IF their lategame was less insane. But haveing that strong 1 items spike and lategame godmode is a bit much.
Name one adc who can abuse BOTRK to have an insane early game and still have an insane late game later on. Lucian is like the only one, and though his late game isn't "Insane" it is still too good for his insane early game, Draven as well, even though he doesn't use BOTRK. The vast majority of ADCs either pick one or the other, don't come for all ADCs just for 2 fucking champs wtf?

One of these things is not like the others~
Yah its the Evelynn
: ^)
And supports have
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Oops... I meant

3 mandatory items (excluding boots) is a fun and interactive gameplay
And having negative base AR and HP with 325 MS and 0 mobility with this build makes it extra fun.
Four. You have to build your support item to have any gold at all, have to build SS because otherwise your team flames you because you have no wards on the map, and you have to build Redemption and Locket because they're busted. Five if you include boots.
means you don't need an income item and a SS. Not everyone can use
and
, as well (Try building Locket on Soraka, and see how that works. :P), so you really only need 3 items. Your spike is even earlier if your core item is a mandatory early one, like
on
, or if you're like
, and
is always a core item on you, anyways.
Locket is great on Soraka because she appreciates the resistances and an aoe shield compliments her aoe healing nicely.
Oh boy, one whole space for situational items. Such build freedom.
That situational item is whichever gold item you picked out
Oh silly me, you are right! I guess I have a situational Elixir to buy...
Don't forget the situational trinket choice

Sunfire Cape would be a great item to have. Might have to replace it with our most recent reworked item, Sunmycharactermodelisslightlywarm Cape.
We need a first buy tank item with 20 percent cdr to match



Change out the mana for health 1 for 1 and we have a deal.
Are you high?
No, Frozen heart needs to keep its mana, otherwise I couldn't build it on Taliyah.
Go away
, stop ruining our early game item spikes!
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Health is the way to go for first item, not resistances
You asked for a tank item with 20% cdr...ta da
They did ask for a first buy tank item, and Frozen Heart is a bad item to rush in most circumstances.
is better rush item (still not great), and it gives 20% CDR.
oh look it gives health now :^)
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Has no hp or Mr.... Get slaughtered by midlane support or jg
Even if Fh was in any good spot, it still isn't a great item to rush in many setups...
Am I the only one who hates all of those items except maybe Youmuu's? Cause I really don't like any of those items. All of those are busted items.
I guess that's fair, although Morellonomicon is overloaded/strong because its users would be too weak without.
That's the same case with adcs that rush a good item first though, where's the consistency?
I thought ADCs spike later because of their strong lategame. I think it actually makes sense to not have a one item spike for ADCs, unless they're sacrificing a huge bit of lategame DPS with that rush item.
Tanks were the same, but there item was still nerfed.[zombie-nunu-bummed]
What do all these items (except for Morellos) have in common? All of them got nerfed in the recent patches.
well to be fair, people are also asking to gut cleaver.
but yea, sunfire is trash right now.
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Lucian can outduel any adc on 1 item, regardless of which item Lucian has.
He does it when ER is meta, he does it when GB is meta, he does it when IE is meta and now he's doing it when BoTRK is meta.
Lucian is meant to win early fights, it's what he's good at.