So now that Fizz is just doing Jax's role but better, can we admit Jax is still too weak?

hashinshin·Mar 11, 2015·4 votes·608 views

Jax does not bring enough to a team. Being strong 1v1 yet not able to assassinate people and having a crazy weak laning phase doesn't amount to much. Hecarim does split pushing better, Fizz does assassination/dueling better, and Irelia does tanky assassin better. Jax does nothing that you can't find better on a different champion.

Also, Jax has 18 more health than Riven, and the same armor. Something is wrong with this picture.

9 Comments

pleepMar 11, 20152 votes

I would like to see a non- assasin melee be able to actually carry a game late. Right now there is nothing that can stop a full build ADC with 2 lifesteal items (one of which is BT)

U can dive her with J4 or smth and she will just stand there and 1 vs 1 you without needing to kite.

RazorTSMar 11, 20151 votes

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I would actually like to see a non- assasin melee be able to actually carry a game late. Right now there is nothing that can stop a full build ADC with 2 lifesteal items (once of which is BT)

U can dive her with J4 or smth and he will just stand there and 1 vs 1 you without needing to kite.

full built tank can, unless its vayne..

pleepMar 11, 20152 votes

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full built tank can, unless its vayne..

Hell no. The adc with BT will heal more from Lifesteal than a full tank will do in dmg. What are u talking about

RazorTSMar 11, 20151 votes

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Hell no. The adc with BT will heal more from Lifesteal than a full tank will do in dmg. What are u talking about

300-400 amor 4k hp and thornmail on top, very few adc's can deal with that alone, heck sunfire and frogs buff and one rotation of spells are enaught to finish poor adc off, like i said vayne is a problem, true damage hurts a ton

SpecterVonBarenMar 11, 20152 votes

Dude, Jax's W hurts WAAAAAY more than Fizz's W, the difference is that bruiser Fizz is (Ironically) tankier than Jax. Not saying he couldn't use a buff of some sort (As much as I was glad to not see him all the time, the amount of base defensive stats they ripped from him was just absurd), just that I'm more afraid of a Jax than a Fizz.

hashinshinMar 11, 20151 votes

Fizz's W is 50 base + 8% execute for 5 seconds. Jax's W is 180 once every 3 seconds.

Fizz's W makes the entire kit playable. Jax's W is nice.

pleepMar 11, 20151 votes

i would agree. Honestly at this point, im thinking they shouldn't have ever even nerfed jax.

Clearly nerfing is not the way to create balance

youngjake93Mar 11, 20151 votes

Jax's niche is late game 1v2s. He is the most reliable at it. You don't need to be fed to do it. He can kill 2 people sent for him in the split push AND speedily take the tower after. Sure his niche isn't wide or very well defined(has conpetition), but we have like 130 champions. Also he is possibly the best solo carry. He can actually 1v5 if fed against a less than coordinated team. He is pretty good vs auto attacking comps that use champs like Fiora, Warwick, Yi, 70% of the ADCs, Zed, Yasuo etc.

Werlyb is a EU LCS top laner that draws a Jax ban every single game because in the first week he literally 1v4ed people both games multiple times. Werlyb has been one of the worst top laners ever since. So obviously Jax works for some people lol