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I might ask the wrong people since in my other thread people backlashed me and told me that Camille is balanced
despite having 22% pick rate+52% win rate+30% ban rate
despite having 100% pick/ban in competition
welp, I guess having Darius ult on 4 sec cd is balanced doe
Salson3 votesBecause if you nerf every strong toplaner you end up with balanced shit.......but still shit none the less.
needs a buff, as well as a couple of other champs.
and 
aren't broken, they just have a level of power that every healthy toplaner should have.
Ahristocats2 votesevery healthy toplaner should have.
Hm yea sure
Camille facerolling an entire soloq game, let's put that power into every single toplaner!
the boards SHOULD **ING hear itself sometimes
Salson1 votesCamille facerolling an entire soloq game
How the hell is a champion who's only overpowered in Diamond facerolling?
WiccanBKaplan3 votesFace-role? As a person who used to face-roll hard, you can't fins success with her by face-rolling. You cancel the true DMG second proc by casting it too early when you do face-role; losing out on auto resets and dmg output. Its OP in diamond and up 'cause they know what they are doing.
Ahristocats1 votesi guess i chose the wrong word then
what i wanted to say is that camille can single handly roll an entire game this pick is not balanced, and people should feel ashamed to call camille a bar of all toplaners
to call a champ 100% pick/ban in competitive a bar of toplaners
Salson1 votesBut the majority of Pro tops suck:
- no fervor, no damage
- no fervor, no domage
- no fervor, no damage
- no DTF, no damage
- idk, just seems to suck randomly
Buff these guys, they're stupidly bad.
Then you have pubstompers like 
who can only fight her in their own elo.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesKled? No damage?
Dude. What game are you playing that Kled has no damage? He still has insane damage with just BC and Titanic, and straight tank after that.
Literally just take Press the Attack or Grasp. Gg, now you have lots of damage. Trust me, I've played him recently, I used to main him. Grab your two core damage items, and grab an offensive mastery.
Salson1 votesTrust me, I've played him recently, I used to main him.
That does not sound good. Why stop, the champ seems fun?
I know he does damage, but it's still weaker then when he could rush Fervor and borderline insta-stack it. He's kinda viable sure, but not enough to contest Darius/Garen/Tryn in low elo or Camille/Riven/Fiora in high elo.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesI changed mains because, even though he has damage, he's not that helpful. Picking a juggernaut/skirmisher is borderline inting. Not because they're bad, but because they bring so little to the team. Damage? Everyone has fucktons of that. Tankiness? They're not as tanky as an actual tank. CC? Haha no.
A juggernaut brings nothing to the table except a liability. Same with skirmishers.
And I was getting kinda sick of him, regardless.
Stand Alone Wolf2 votesYou don't have a full build. You don't have max in-game level. You don't attack a lvl 1 decoy. (Unless of course the level of the decoy doesn't affect it's stats)
. . .
Nope! I don't have an idea man.
[sg-lulu]
Ahristocats1 votes[{quoted}](name=Stand Alone Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QZiTA78V,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-06T20:00:21.493+0000)
You don't have a full build. You don't have max in-game level.
How do u know? I can say the same for Darius, and his ult still won't outdamage camille's Q
You don't attack a lvl 1 decoy. (Unless of course the level of the decoy doesn't affect it's stats)
true damage is not affected by armor so i don't see where the levels of enemies affect camille
Stand Alone Wolf1 votes[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QZiTA78V,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-06T20:02:24.470+0000)
How do u know? I can say the same for Darius, and his ult still won't outdamage camille's Q
true damage is not affected by armor so i don't see where the levels of enemies affect camille
um, I was being sarcastic . _.
ZT Xperimentor2 votesA champions rates only show a fraction of their issues, at least you looked at all three, but it's still only one facet.
Ahristocats1 votesi guess the fact that 100% of challenger toplane mains play camille and have like 65% win rate on her doesn't matter i guess that her dominance in the pro scene doesn't matter
maining and mastering camille is legit a ticket to heaven, this champion's kit is an aberation of the nature and the fact that her Q can deals 1k true damage makes it even worse.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesAny dedicated main should have 60+ win rate, doesn't matter the rank; and since you haven't seen me before I'll explain something to you for my perspective, I don't care what the pros do or think of the game, anyone's performance is going to increase when you have top of the line computers with no lag. The pros just abuse what's the easiest way to win; like us some a few picks they prefer to play as, some are more flexible to play more than one role, some can play from behind, and some can't play against a couple specific champions.
If you think mastering a champion is heavenly then I'd suggest raising your standards, it sounds sad existentially speaking.
You know who else can deal massive true damage; vayne, fiora, darius, masteryi, irelia, chogath, velkoz, garen, syndra . . . sure not 1k in one hit, but ususaly they can with a rotation or two, or under some specific conditions. Speaking of which, camille requires waiting to deal that kind of damage, and is still limited to melee range auto-attack, as well as having a short window to deal it; otherwise the buff to deal that kind of damage is lost, and her wind up sound effect accompanying this is rather apparent matching her visuals. If you're having trouble dealing with that then stun her right before it finishes charging, so it'll expire by the time she's able to act; or create some distance so she'll have to waste the time closing the gap, instead of nailing you. Referring back to those pros you idolize, again some don't want to bother putting up with her, just as some ban oddball picks like garen.
Bjørnetjenesten1 votesShe is strong, but not OP. She is a fun champ to play (and watch), but easy to shut down in lane.
This is the spot she deserves after being in the gutter for almost 9 months.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesProbably because that looks like a highly situational build. You're also not showing runes (the only one we have for certain is a sorcery, which could be primary or secondary).
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