Taliyah is not in a good spot

Succubús GF··1 votes·373 views

I feel like maybe she should just be put back in the workshop because she is pretty much useless. Her new w is actual garbage. I actually think it is the most awkward thing in game to do. Her E feels like a carbon cop of ziggs bombs. Her Q is fine , but her ult is kinda useless, there is nothing really show stopping about it

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Rivuo3 votes

Taliyah is not weak. Not at all

Succubús GF1 votes

In terms of utility, almost every other mage can do what she does, and better. Not to mention you know for a fact that her vector cast w is awkward as fuck

Dynikus3 votes

"I don't know how to vector cast so everyone else must find it awkward to use"

also

her ult is kinda useless

pretty much invalidates your opinion on the champion. Her ult is absurdly good.

Succubús GF1 votes

I know HOW to, it is just awkward and several people have also agreed with me o.o But please don't let me keep you from your high horse, go ahead and tell me about myself thanks. When is her ult good? Engaging in a team fight? Because she clearly can't escape with it. For zoning? Hmm Let's think of other champions who can zone out even better shall we? Syndra Lissandra Orianna Ziggs Cassiopeia But right, my opinion is completely invalid. EDIT- I also went ahead and looked you up. Silver V with a 4.7/5/8 Average KDA With Taliyah. Of course a Taliyah main would disagree with me lol. Nonetheless you can't invalidate someone's opinion considering you don't exactly have tons of more experience than I do.

Dynikus1 votes

You don't know how to use her ult, so it's bad. Gotcha. There's not really much better of a tool for zoning someone out than an unpassable wall.

Succubús GF1 votes

Go ahead and ignore everything else i said because you can't clearly read with comprehension? Alright!

Dynikus3 votes

Your post consisted of saying a vocal minority agrees that her vector casting is awkward, and that you didn't know how to use her ult. Not sure what I missed there exactly. As far as your edit saying a taliyah main would disagree with you on her being useless, no shit? They've taken the time to figure out the use for each ability. The fact that you can't even see how a rideable wall that stretches halfway across the map can be useful should be enough to show you don't really know what you're talking about. I looked at your history on op.gg out of curiosity and don't see a single game played on Taliyah. So I'm really curious where your opinion comes from.

Succubús GF1 votes

Actually ive played her four times thanks lol

Rivuo2 votes

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In terms of utility, almost every other mage can do what she does, and better. Not to mention you know for a fact that her vector cast w is awkward as fuck

I thought the same thing. Until i played kalista and a taliyah put unraveled ground underneath me and i instadied from autoing. Then my brother picked yasuo into a taliyah and got murdered.

Then i played a vayne game, Taliyah put her unraveled ground, i didnt dash because id instadie and then she threw me toward her team.

Then i was playing ashe. She walled off behind me and it was instantly a 3v2 boom dravens fed now.

Shes not a bad champion at all. You can think that but i will 100% disagree no matter what because thats a horrible opinion.

Succubús GF1 votes

It isn't a HORRIBLE OPINION, it's a different opinion. You are reffering to adcs. I guarantee a Syndra could 100-0 you without blinking and you would be like "WTF" that's instadying. You aren't understanding the concept because you clearly don't play mid lane.

Rivuo2 votes

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It isn't a HORRIBLE OPINION, it's a different opinion. You are reffering to adcs. I guarantee a Syndra could 100-0 you without blinking and you would be like "WTF" that's instadying. You aren't understanding the concept because you clearly don't play mid lane.

I usually agree with most of your board posts but i cant agree with taliyah being weak. Having an ult that boards off any objective / Easy double bot lane or top is just what adc mains needed. More reason to hug their tower.

Taliyah is the reason Yasuo kalista and vayne will never see pro play again. I promise.

The Last Ballad3 votes

Syndra also has the advantage of longer range, but she takes so long to set up her kill. It takes Syndra 6 actions(q,q,w,q,e,r) to 100-0 a person, 3 of them her q, so that is 12 seconds to kill someone. You are telling me that Taliyah couldn't upset Syndra's timing at all with her w? Nor hit her or back off during that time? When someone Taliyah counters can best her, then she is truly in a bad spot.

The ult is nowhere near useless, nor is it just useful for throwing yourself at them(did you forget you can just fire the wall off without riding it?) You can walk halfway down river, block off the enemy duo at bot(or mid if you are support), then surf back to your lane. Getting dragon and enemies incoming? Block off the enemy jungle completely. They are getting dragon? Block off the exit to the pit so a Fiddle or an Anivia(or any aoe destroyer for that matter) can wreck them. Enemy minion horde approaching a near dead tower? Ult over to not only slow their advance, but also to get all that juicy gold without allied minion interference(or end up on your tower's side if there is an enemy champ with the wave). Near dead ally fleeing enemies? Ult at your ally to provide support and cut off the chase.

The ult isn't useless, you are just not very imaginative when it comes to using it.

As for the w, it is a little clunky, but it is so much easier to use. Instead of a random ping spike causing Taliyah to ignore my second press, it now throws them anyway. It took me 3 minutes after I lvled up the w to figure out that if I held the skill, it had the range and direction indicator(I have everything on smartcast without indicator) On nearly every champ I have issues when I try to push a few buttons at quickly(like Zil's qwq stun) one of them will just not register, and so happened with Taliyahs w. I would push w, then push it again instantly, but it would not go off. And this change makes it so that the skills that come from playing Victor or Rumble are actually useful and people picking up them after playing Taliyah won't have as much trouble learning Victor's e, or Rumble's ult.

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