what if the normal matchmaking set you up with equal kda and not equal winrate

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think about it

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GULAG 4 U5 votes

Kda doesn't mean shit. This game is like chess. It's not about killing, but about the objectives (king/nexus).

Ok sure but why1 votes

That'd be a more apt comparison if the pawns in chess had autistic spasms and occasionally flung themselves off the table without your consent.

GULAG 4 U6 votes

Oh because your team is always full of trashcans and theirs is full of diamond s,urns every game right?

Best Kog NA2 votes

What about support mains or people who play like a team?

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that's the a

assist

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

That and the players who had an easy match up, fought against new or high ping players, or had a good game.

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I'd rather have a good kda and lose than get carried

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Then you should considering changing the game you play. My KDA in general is shit. But I carry more than my fair share of games.

hunterspec1 votes

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I'd rather have a good kda and lose than get carried

what is a good kda to you? you have no ranked games.

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0.2 is a kda i don't want on my team just because some Talon carried him last game

Ark Sorcerer3 votes

Why? As long as you do your part, and that the person carrying you isn't a jerk, what difference does it make. I would rather be 1/3/12 as Poppy and get carried versus 17/2/5 and lose.

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Yeah, I'm not talking about the 1/3/12 Poppy. I'm talking about the 1/5/2 Poppy. You know the A in KDA means assists, right?

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

I am fully aware. The high assist were meant to show that Poppy participated in battle a lot, unlike your 1/5/2 Poppy only participated in 3 kills. The doing your part was evident with the high assist count. (I play Support so I know assist show your participation)

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Yeah, well, then, what's the problem? If we both agree that assists count, where's the disagreement?

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

How would assist impact this? I am just think that a support player would always have higher assist over deaths, and deaths over kills. How do high assists compare to high kills with low assists?

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Kills and assists both count as participatory take-downs in League's stat-keeping. They're literally weighed equally. Go on all those League sites, and it'll show the same thing. 13/2/5 is the same as 5/2/13 to them.

So what's the problem?

Ark Sorcerer2 votes

Is that so? That is news to me. I mean, in game that is not true because the player with 13 kills has hundreds, maybe a thousand + gold, than the 13 assist player. But if that is true, then...

Yeah sure. I won't argue with you anymore.

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Now if only 18 other people realised this lmao

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

You mean to people who downvoted you (I am not one of them)

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O, then 19

Quepha2 votes

Artillery mage players would end up losing tons of games. Support, Tank, and pure splitpush players would be winning almost every game.

Cocho1 votes

I'd feed while winning everygame

Ok sure but why1 votes

Why would you win if you got matched with people who fed as much as you

Quepha1 votes

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Why would you win if you got matched with people who fed as much as you

and matched against you.

Cocho1 votes

^^^^^^^^^^

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would rather have that than a bunch of idiots on my team and a bunch of korean scripters on theirs

Quepha2 votes

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would rather have that than a bunch of idiots on my team and a bunch of korean scripters on theirs

Korean scripters would probably have a very high winrate and not be matched with you under the normal system. Your proposition seems completely unrelated to this hypothetical problem.

Yaśuo Main2 votes

pretty sure he meant korean scripters as "way out of my league" and not literally korean scripters, this is obvious when we are in NA anyway

Quepha2 votes

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pretty sure he meant korean scripters as "way out of my league" and not literally korean scripters, this is obvious when we are in NA anyway

"way out of my league players" would be much more likely to be matched with you in a k/d/a matching system since it's a nonsense matchmaking system not at all related to skill.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

ikr, srsly he thinks KDA's are somehow different, a 3/1 korean is the same as a 3/1 NA bronze to him

Sir Poodle1 votes

This is not a good idea in any way:

  1. It screws over supports especially
  2. It rewards all out brawls instead of going after an open nexus, (for example)
  3. It screws over tanks a fair amount
  4. For people who are trying to win, it rewards intentionally dying if you can still win (You still win, and will be matched against 5 worse people on their team with only 4 worse people on ally team)
  5. So many other perverse incentives
  6. Asthetically unpleasing, to boot.
Ok sure but why1 votes
  1. The A in KDA means assists
  2. No one on planet earth thinks it's fun having to literally sit up top for 40 minutes because their feeding Trynd wants to split-push. That makes things less fun for everyone.
  3. What, tanks can't get assists?
  4. I guess that's a fair point, but it's not like smurfs don't exist for that exact same reason.
  5. Filler filler
  6. ?
Automated Riven1 votes

Also league of legends is an objective game. The amount of gold a team gets from kills is pretty pitiful when you compare it to minions towers barons and ambient gold. The idea that you should be matched based on KDA is ignorant at best and shows a deep misunderstanding of how the game even works.

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