Riot I know you had to nerf Xin Zhao but you kind of ruined AP Xin Zhao

Pyrithegethon·Feb 25, 2016·4 votes·1,218 views

Now I don't play AP Xin at all don't get me wrong, them removing it isn't a problem for me at all. Just people I know played AP Xin because they liked the cheese of tons of sustain to solo turrets.

Was that healthy? Perhaps not but he did never reach that point unless he had 3-4 items which then made him annoying.

Are there any other off meta champ builds you intend to get rid of either through reworks or nerfs(AP Malphite, AP Aatrox, AP Lee Song, etc.?)

11 Comments

Darkslayer85Feb 25, 20163 votes

It wasn't a complete nerf, all they did was take off a bit of his power on his first gank and a bit of his mid-game.

Before the buff to 70%, the ratio was 50%. Now it's 40%, but with a 20% AD scaling. This is worth much more than the missing 10% AP due to actually granting power on AAs. His W will now CRIT as well, so comboed with Three Talon Strike, he will knockup, crit, and heal. He can still solo towers and Baron as well, but he will need a full/almost full build instead of the item 3124 item 3931 item 3115 . Still viable. Just learn to adapt.

SachabotFeb 25, 20161 votes

I hear they call it Three Talon Strike because he used it once and it killed Talon three times. XD

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 25, 20161 votes

You should have used Talon Talon Talon Strike.

Darkslayer85Feb 25, 20161 votes

Back to the point, AP Xin is still viable, but hybrid Xin is even more powerful now than the old AP Xin. That's my point.

Dominick DestineFeb 25, 20161 votes

AP Xin was a troll build anyway.

PyrithegethonFeb 25, 20161 votes

It still worked at times despite the cheese :(

theragingnerdFeb 25, 20161 votes

i played it in the middle of the whole guinsoos thing holy fuck it wasn't nothing to fuck with i walked into a 1v3 at 300 hp and won

No flash no lifeFeb 25, 20161 votes

They did it to prevent ap xin from stomping in upcoming urf. Whoever ad xin can kill, a non-ad xin has no problem killing. Ap xin sustain was insane last year - even if opponent is galio and xin cant kill him, xin isn't going to die to him either. Just solo turret in front of tanks' faces and kill squishies if they show up @_@.

ELABYED25Apr 19, 20171 votes

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They did it to prevent ap xin from stomping in upcoming urf. Whoever ad xin can kill, a non-ad xin has no problem killing. Ap xin sustain was insane last year - even if opponent is galio and xin cant kill him, xin isn't going to die to him either. Just solo turret in front of tanks' faces and kill squishies if they show up @_@.

Heals are already nerfed on URF to 50% which increase till it's normal again at late game

xxxDogmanxxxFeb 25, 20161 votes

I honestly don't give a fuck about the decreased AP ratio, it's the decreased AP ratio PLUS the -20% attack speed on his W PLUS the now missing 30% attack speed from the new Warlord's Bloodlust that I hate. They really should have just nerfed Guinsoo's Rageblade instead of doing this.