Yuumi Has No Place on the Rift

Woodakoodashooda··4 votes·2,793 views

Maybe I've been gone too long from the game and mabe I'm not skilled enough for my words to have much weight in this matter, but I bought Yuumi and gave her a try and I honestly don't think she belongs in the game.

Yuumi is supposed to be a support champion. She cannot be anything other than a support champion. Her kit simply and blatantly does not allow her to be played in any other role. This, in itself, is not necessarily a bad thing. She is not alone in this regard, after all.

That being said, however, what makes a good support?

A good support, in my opinion, needs to excel in four aspects. Presence, peel, awareness, and coordination.

Yuumi has no presence. If she's attached to an ally, usually the ADC, she provides almost nothing with the exception of some minor heals and the occasional tickle. If she is not attached, her allies gain no benefits from her abilities, and she's killed faster than a Soraka caught out in the enemy jungle.

Yuumi has no peel. She's basically a spectator who watches her allies, the friends she's supposed to be protecting die one by one, hopping from one sinking ship to another until she's run out of emergency exits and is slapped in the face with a well deserved death.

Yuumi is extraordinarily limited in providing awareness. While she can ward and attempt to destroy enemy wards, she usually must do so while unattached and vulnerable. While it is every player's responsibility to provide vision for the team, it is NOT their responsibility to act as a taxi to their support so as to plant wards.

While Yuumi following the every movement of an ally may seem like coordination at first, it is not. The reality of the situation is Yuumi is a crippled cat wholly incapable of walking on her own feet so that she has to piggyback on others both figuratively and literally and hope her allies can carry her to victory. She is dead weight to any team whose misfortune it is to suffer her presence.

15 Comments

Thingamajig10 votes

once you get to understand how her kit functions you will understand how busted she is in lane and how hard it is to deal with her without the help of a gank or an insanely hard engage bot lane

she outsustains any poke is really safe and the frequency and reliability of her own poke is really good the 40% win rate is because people think they can go afk in the game and stop performing their support related tasks like warding

most yuumis ive seen have insanely low warding scores a strong adc doesn't offset the fact that your map is dark and you have no pressure the sooner people start abusing the w the sooner she will become a 100% pick/ban

ApexInTheCircle2 votes

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once you get to understand how her kit functions you will understand how busted she is in lane and how hard it is to deal with her without the help of a gank or an insanely hard engage bot lane

she outsustains any poke is really safe and the frequency and reliability of her own poke is really good the 40% win rate is because people think they can go afk in the game and stop performing their support related tasks like warding

most yuumis ive seen have insanely low warding scores a strong adc doesn't offset the fact that your map is dark and you have no pressure the sooner people start abusing the w the sooner she will become a 100% pick/ban

This, get yourself a fucking adc that has self peel and they will almost never die in a straight up 2v2. I've said this since day fucking 1, Yuumi makes her adc unkillable.

Novae Idyllica1 votes

Personally a big fan of sivir yuumi bot lane for this reason

Midg3t1 votes

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Personally a big fan of sivir yuumi bot lane for this reason

Why sivir specifically?

Novae Idyllica1 votes

Her spell shield. I don't play a ton of adcs but of the ones I do play Sivir feels the best, especially because she has her own method of not getting caught by the enemy Thresh/Naut/Blitz/Etc without relying on just her support for peel. The shield also means if Yuumi gets caught out I can much more safely run into range of her attach without getting myself into trouble too. Additionally her abilities feel the best to play protectively around Yuumi when she is unattached. Throwing out a Q while Yuumi is getting an auto onto the enemy supp/adc generally deters them from trying to attack her back.

Sir Saltarin1 votes

people think they can go afk in the game and stop performing their support related tasks like warding

There are more things that makes Yuumi look bad but this one is a really huge one

Thingamajig2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QE4qUTaB,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-23T12:27:18.842+0000)

There are more things that makes Yuumi look bad but this one is a really huge one

it was just one example of a support task that is being hard neglected by yuumi players they just play like a symbiote all game and think they are useful that way

you are still an autonomous champion with insane mobility just abuse it for free elo some people that are starting to main her in high diamond already pull 55% + win rates i can only imagine how cancerous it feels to play against those players

2Charmnot2Charm6 votes

Yuumi has no presence. If she's attached to an ally, usually the ADC, she provides almost nothing with the exception of some minor heals and the occasional tickle.

Go back and play her again, if you still think this is how she is then you are clearly doing something wrong.

Stupid champ needs to be nerfed after those hotfix buffs riot gave her.

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

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Go back and play her again, if you still think this is how she is then you are clearly doing something wrong.

Stupid champ needs to be nerfed after those hotfix buffs riot gave her.

Alright; so, I decided to give her another go. I'm only playing normals, mind you, because I can't be bothered with

A. Taking this game seriously. B. Trying to take this game seriously. C. Pretending to try to take this game seriously.

(Honestly, I just play it to chill and take a break from my other games.)

And I've discovered that she's actually fun. And as long as you aren't trying to live up to the expectations of the players around you (as with any champion), she truly begins to shine.

I've even gotten into the habit of outright abandoning allies who over extend. I get all up in that cat mentality, you see? I'll stick by my "friend" as long as it suits me, but as soon as they wander well outside my comfort zone, I'll ditch their dumb butt and find a new "friend".

Acekill3r5 votes

She is super broken, i just don't get these posts, if u get a good player and an adc and/or a bruiser that know how to play with her she is a free win.

stopthesinged2 votes

So, you’re wrong. Yuumi is a support that both the adc and support need to know every well in order for her to excel. She’s very good when both players know what she does and how she’s played. The things you’re saying are really just a circlecirk that has been perpetuated in low elo b/c a lot of low elo just automatically think a support is terrible when it doesn’t deliver them kills on a silver platter à la Blitzcrank.

Kai Guy2 votes

The biggest issue playing yuumi I find is teammates who are oblivious that their 1 for 1 suicide plays are highly negative 2 for 1 plays when your attached.

To an extent you can mitigate it by detaching but not always. I have had Vayne Kaisa Zed for example all use Abilitys or summoner 4 to go ham AF into 3-4 enemies to try to secure a kill. They could have escaped but made a hyper aggro play for 1 kill....when your hatting and they do this your fked.

Otherwise... things like Q and E and R can be dealt with for oblivious teammates. Smarter Casts of Q, being willing to detatch cast it. Detatching when using R because idiots decided to not aim it at the back line you opend on. Some times you have to spend more time on your front line champions to just have the range for Q.

FaxMeDarling2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chocolate Frost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QE4qUTaB,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-23T08:01:56.703+0000) Yuumi has no presence

Continuous pokes with q Bonus ad/ap (more or less passively) Speed buff and heal

She's not busted, she's 🅱️usted Just go full ap, like Lux and spam your q-nukes with echo. After you buy item 3285 your opponents normally are going under the tower and losing minions while running from that missile

Yes you need a friend to play with, because Yuumi is always attached to a champion, so you have to work together.

Original Sin1 votes

There should be 5 tenets to a support, the fifth one being gank assist/ setup. Yuumi has fuck all until 6. I ban her in ranked so my team doesnt pick her. Absolute pathetic champion

GodlyBane1 votes

Gonna give you the DV there, cheif

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