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THANK YOU RIOT! (Forreal) I thought Lethality items were doomed, But PBE shows ur buffing them :)

Dreadlocks··8 votes·979 views

Duskblade of Draktharritem 3147 [note: Item has several changes already testing on PBE.] #AD increased from 55 to 60_ <-- I like this_ Unique Passive - Nightstalker changes: #Damage changed to 150-210, based on level._ <--- Yep this too_ VS LIVE: From [75+200% lethality] to 150-210 based on level. VS PBE: From 150 to 150-210 based on level. #Effect time after being seen increased from 4 to 5 <-- Yes.. I do approve.

Edge of Nightitem 3814 [note: Item has several changes already testing on PBE.] #Total cost lowered to 2900 <-- Approve this, 3100 right now is pretty insane VS LIVE: From 3100 to 2900 VS PBE: From 3000 to 2900 #Health increased from 250 to 300 _ <--- Now we're getting closer!!_

Youmuu's Ghostblade item 3142 [note: Item has several changes already testing on PBE.] #AD increased from 55 to 60 <-- Bless your Soul _ Unique active movement speed reverted. Returned from [40% decaying over duration] to [20%] #<-- Doesn't bother me 1 bit, didn't need it anyways :) _

I really hope there isn't any backtracking after these buffs lol.. I was certain to never built lethality again except maybe Youmuus for the MS.. But i like this a lot.. More AD on Youmuus + Duskblade is well needed (even if its 5 less than live for dusk) and i really like that Edge of Night is now up to 300 HP, makes it a decent option over Black Cleaver for some assassins. Esp since we can get CDR from Duskblade.

Well Done Riot, don't go back on these pls lol, if anything give duskblade 65 AD and call it done :)

34 Comments

Big Lincoln5 votes

give me back the ghostblade speed

Dreadlocks1 votes

I don't even care tbh.. It was hardly that noticeable anyways on PBE.. You're still fast as hell with Youmuus as is. Just lil crappy that it's an extra 100g but what can we do lol.

Big Lincoln2 votes

i need the speed for my new garen build

Dreadlocks1 votes

NEED FOR SPEED!!!

Big Lincoln1 votes

ya i do item 3147 item 3142 item 3742

very speedy, and duskblade + dmp is an extra flat 250 dmg (it'll scale to 310 on pbe, even better)

very op garen is a better assassin than real assassins :)

Penns1 votes

:(

Big Lincoln1 votes

tfw riot nerfs bruiser assassins but the real og bruiser assassin gets buffs

item 3682 Garen item 3682

Slythion2 votes

welp, there goes my enjoyment of playing Xerath recently

KitSun91 votes

Well you'll get your nerfs once Deus et Dominus Marksmen start complaining....

Slythion1 votes

marksmen favoritism has it's benefits for others sometimes :3

Rexxiee2 votes

item 3814 Needs its chenneling active to be halved.

It doesnt make any sense to have to channel for almost 2 seconds to get a 5 second duration shield, it made sense when it was 10s, not 5s.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Im so f*cking happy

just sad for the 40% ms [zombie-nunu-bummed].

My MonkeyKing will be great.

Thanks Riot [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Variks the Loyal1 votes

sniff

I smell squishies. Pantheon

Shacophobia1 votes

I love the changes, but when will our little kitty Rengar , get a change? :(

Dreadlocks1 votes

Probably not for a very long time.

MikeyRage1 votes

um... I was reading over this very confused... you do realise they are nurfing the damage? "AD increased from 55 to 60 " That's not what the PBE patch notes say. If you look on a live game right now you'll see that duskbalde and Ghostblade already have 60 AD they are Nurfing 5 AD and buffing the passive.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I'm saying on PBE, compared to live duskblade is losing 5 ad..

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Still pretty whack and I think i' still building deaths dance, trinity force, thronmail, etc.

Ralanr1 votes

Why is Edge getting health?!

Big Lincoln1 votes

because cleaver is (theoretically) being made less attractive for assassins

Ralanr1 votes

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Seriously? It's basically becoming an AD version of old banshee's with that health.

Hell I might get it on Sion now.

Big Lincoln3 votes

i would rather see it get CDR

triple lethality giving 30% would make cleaver less appealing

Dreadlocks1 votes

I mean, i kinda like the idea, then it doesn't feel weird to buy it vs AD heavy teams.

Darkdemon6531 votes

It's nice to see Riot try to fix lethality items, but I really think Riot fucked themselves into a corner when they changed Guardian Angel. Even ignoring that the passive itself screws over most assassins, making it viable to get as a second or third item (against certain teams, of course) is just so much.

If lethality (and ArP in general for assassins) gets to the point where they can properly deal with GA/Hourglass + maybe Tabi, they're going to absolutely destroy targets who don't get them. If lethality and ArP is designed to deal with GA/ZH + Tabi, assassins are also going to do well against tanks, which isn't something they're supposed to do.

ZapMyHeart1 votes

{quoted}

If lethality (and ArP in general for assassins) gets to the point where they can properly deal with....Hourglass....

Mages have to deal with the assassin's BS of an item called item 3155. Consider it a fair trade. Actually, I take it back. You still owe us some money.

Big Lincoln2 votes

yeah, and we have to deal with mages

So we're even

ZapMyHeart1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QBIP21cF,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-06-30T17:16:03.129+0000)

yeah, and we have to deal with mages

So we're even

And we have to deal with assassins.

Not even.

Pay up.

Big Lincoln2 votes

assassins are shit and have been, you're just being outplayed

in fact I think you should pay US reparations

ZapMyHeart1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QBIP21cF,comment-id=00090000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-30T17:26:45.019+0000)

assassins are shit and have been, you're just being outplayed

in fact I think you should pay US reparations

Please.

Did you forget the item 3814 fiasco?

I didn't see reparations paid to the mages who suffered then.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

item 3102

Darkdemon6531 votes

{quoted}

Mages have to deal with the assassin's BS of an item called item 3155. Consider it a fair trade. Actually, I take it back. You still owe us some money.

That wasn't my point.

Lethality and ArP in general is balanced around what Riot expects someone to have at a given point against a given team. However, the amount of armor someone has can vary by a decent amount without that person buying a truly defensive item, and that's going to cause problems. And then changing GA to what it is now, in my eyes, completely ruined any chance Riot has of balancing assassins while simultaneously making sure they are able to do their job and not able to do others' jobs.

Scary Door1 votes

Edge of Night is just very 'meh'. It's not a great item.

The other changes seem pretty good though.

Rexxiee1 votes

Lethality is still going to be shit while item 3047 exists at its current stage.

Once tabi gets nerfed to a point where its not worth it to buy on squishy classes then lethality will be viable again.

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