So my experience with ranked today, Top fed irelia and no one can shut her down.

ValiantKiller·Oct 23, 2018·25 votes·8,717 views

Such interactive game and fun game that you can't deal with champion cause your smart team mate who play top fed a stupid designed cancer champion called

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MordepoolOct 24, 20185 votes

Mobile and fed = no recourse, no Counterplay

Immobile and Fed= plenty of Recourse, decent levels of Counterplay.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20183 votes

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Mobile and fed = no recourse, no Counterplay

Immobile and Fed= plenty of Recourse, decent levels of Counterplay.

Mobile,fed, damage, tankies and ofcourse self sustian

charge attackOct 24, 20181 votes

That’s not true. It’s very matchup dependent.

Strong duelists that get ahead will have almost no counterplay if you don’t have a strong duelist yourself.

Having mobility and not having mobility only changes HOW you play. Mobile champions can look to find and kill people - while immobile champions force people to come to them.

A fed Nasus/Yorick/Udyr/Illaoi is just as much of a nightmare as a fed Irelia - unless you have the champs to deal with them.

However those champions won’t run into teamfights like Irelia/Camille - they’re better off bashing on towers/your camps

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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That’s not true. It’s very matchup dependent.

Strong duelists that get ahead will have almost no counterplay if you don’t have a strong duelist yourself.

Having mobility and not having mobility only changes HOW you play. Mobile champions can look to find and kill people - while immobile champions force people to come to them.

A fed Nasus/Yorick/Udyr/Illaoi is just as much of a nightmare as a fed Irelia - unless you have the champs to deal with them.

However those champions won’t run into teamfights like Irelia/Camille - they’re better off bashing on towers/your camps

So true, unlike irelia they won't chase your team down cause no mobility

Pika FoxOct 24, 20184 votes

I fail to see how this is an irelia issue. You could say "top fed soraka" and youd get the same result.

SithesisLordOct 24, 20182 votes

No, you wouldn´t because Soraka can´t stun, disarm, gap close on you thrice/twice and reduce your damage by 50%, all while dealing all three kinds of damage, rendering defensive itemization nigh pointless.

At best, a fed top Soraka just won´t die.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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No, you wouldn´t because Soraka can´t stun, disarm, gap close on you thrice/twice and reduce your damage by 50%, all while dealing all three kinds of damage, rendering defensive itemization nigh pointless.

At best, a fed top Soraka just won´t die.

Irelia need 2 kills to snowball some champions require 5 kills atleast

SithesisLordOct 24, 20181 votes

Weak early game champion btw

Pika FoxOct 24, 20181 votes

No, a fed soraka would silence you to hell, bombard you with Qs that deal mass damage, and heal off every Q. And when low bam, full HP off ult.

Or she can build AD and shove bananas in your face and kill you.

Any fed champion will usually win. Theyre fed.

JeaneGreeneOct 24, 20181 votes

Ad and AP Soraka fall off incredibly hard late game

Pika FoxOct 24, 20181 votes

So does literally every single fed champion in the game, given being fed is worthless late game.

JeaneGreeneOct 25, 20181 votes

But more so with Soraka.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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I fail to see how this is an irelia issue. You could say "top fed soraka" and youd get the same result.

And again she one of the eaisted champions to snowball right now. And my post is general but ofcourse irelia is so snowbally champion on her own

Pika FoxOct 24, 20182 votes

Shes a skirmisher... Thats how all skirmishers work. Fiora and jax do the same thing.

SithesisLordOct 24, 20182 votes

Difference being that Fiora doesn´t actually get nearly as tanky as Jax or Irelia and unlike them, can actually be considered a Skirmisher.

Jax and Irelia are Skirmishers in class only. Because they don´t actually follow the rules established by the class.

Pika FoxOct 24, 20181 votes

No, theyre both skirmishers. The class guidelines arent meant to be absolute.

SithesisLordOct 24, 20183 votes

No, but they are almost always followed to the letter.

Yasuo, Riven, Jayce and Fiora all are squishy, DPS based champions with some form of sustain.

Jax and Irelia are too tanky, Jax doesn´t have sustain and with Triforce and Conqueror, they´re certainly not DPS based champions.

Pika FoxOct 24, 20181 votes

Jax is one of the poster childs for melee dps...

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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No, but they are almost always followed to the letter.

Yasuo, Riven, Jayce and Fiora all are squishy, DPS based champions with some form of sustain.

Jax and Irelia are too tanky, Jax doesn´t have sustain and with Triforce and Conqueror, they´re certainly not DPS based champions.

As wukong main myself, it much easier to burst down all of this champions when they ahead with 2 kills yet it impossible to do the same to irelia due to her stun, w and that dumb ult not to mention the mobility.

OneBarrelOct 24, 20181 votes

"Jayce...[is a] squishy, DPS based [champion] with some form of sustain"

Read that back. But slowly. And also remember that his mana sustain is non-existent considering he gets ~5 mana an auto in melee form (that leaves him extremely vulnerable farming) ,W is upgraded last (depending on matchup), and every ability is over ~70 mana.

cheex919Oct 23, 20183 votes

just be glad it's a champ that cant stack, like nasus or veigar, at least you can build armor to somewhat stop her. be glad it wasnt a fed darius, garen, jax, or renekton.

ValiantKillerOct 23, 20183 votes

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just be glad it's a champ that cant stack, like nasus or veigar, at least you can build armor to somewhat stop her. be glad it wasnt a fed darius, garen, jax, or renekton.

Man that just beyond tilting, i played like 3 games everytime the top fed irelia and she run down the game.

And when i just play badly for once and everyone is telling me to go and die...like god i had my hell from this game.

DarukongSrOct 24, 20181 votes

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just be glad it's a champ that cant stack, like nasus or veigar, at least you can build armor to somewhat stop her. be glad it wasnt a fed darius, garen, jax, or renekton.

Fed dar is farrrrr less dangerous and snowballs than a fed irelia because he can force much of anything with his lead. It depends mostly on enemy mistakes and team coordination.

ThefrostyvikingOct 24, 20182 votes

Please, almost any champ once fed to a point becomes unstoppable.

Just yesterday i had a kha6 run 5,0,0 in the first 15 minutes, he was completely impossible to pin down and he killed anyone on the team in less than 2 seconds at most,,,,usually just 0,5 or less for the squishy.

I also had a tank viktor roll 13,2,4 in 18 minutes, he won fights 1v3.....

Special mentions to myself going 10,1,8 shyv and being able to dive in 1v4, kill 3 people and still get out alive.

So OP.....someone getting fed and becoming a massive fking and unstoppable pain in the arse? Its not special or even unusual.

Bashing irelia because one got fed and stomped you doesnt accomplish anything, at all-............and if i found the right game then nocturne and pyke werent exactly harmless either.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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Please, almost any champ once fed to a point becomes unstoppable.

Just yesterday i had a kha6 run 5,0,0 in the first 15 minutes, he was completely impossible to pin down and he killed anyone on the team in less than 2 seconds at most,,,,usually just 0,5 or less for the squishy.

I also had a tank viktor roll 13,2,4 in 18 minutes, he won fights 1v3.....

Special mentions to myself going 10,1,8 shyv and being able to dive in 1v4, kill 3 people and still get out alive.

So OP.....someone getting fed and becoming a massive fking and unstoppable pain in the arse? Its no special or even unusual.

Bashing irelia because one got fed and stomped you doesnt accomplish anything, at all-............and if i found the right game then nocturne and pyke werent exactly harmless either.

Still not many of them get snowballed from 2 kills lead only.

ThefrostyvikingOct 24, 20181 votes

Except, they do.

Most mobile damage dealers in this game snowball extremely hard with "just" two kills, kha6 is almost a perfect example of this, or talon, or Yi, or jax.

Camilie is also extremely good at gaining, keeping and growing a lead.

Then we have several less mobile ones like say urgot, Nasus, darius or aatrox who can just run it down their lane and win 1v2 when doing well, we even have multiple examples of both aatrox and urgot winning 1v2 from worlds.

Kalista is a beast if mentioning marksmen, Syndra is a terrifying mage when ahead being able to instantly delete one target of choice.

I could go on but i think i made my point.

Tr4shB4NSYST3MOct 24, 20182 votes

Tbh thats kinda how it is w/ bruisers in general. If Irelia Camille Jax Aatrox Urgot and the gank get ahead they become WAY harder to deal with, arguably more-so than other champion archetypes even tho any fed champ can be a pain in the ass.

If they go even they can be dealt with/outplayed relatively easily.

And if they get set behind they are damn near useless.

Currently, bruiser gameplay reminds me a lot of the feast or famine gameplay patterns of assassins: If ahead- win splitpush lane hard &/or roam and dominate the map, if behind/even- make only a small contribution to your team.

charge attackOct 24, 20181 votes

Solo carry btw

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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Solo carry btw

Solo carry cause one if the most broken and toxic champions that build alot of hp plus one defensive item plus trinity then you ready to 1v5 with 2 kills ahead

Hexs FortuneOct 24, 20181 votes

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Such interactive game and fun game that you can't deal with champion cause your smart team mate who play top fed a stupid designed cancer champion called

Irelia Jax Camille all get to be mobile juggernaut skirmishers when fed

AlzonOct 24, 20181 votes

That’s what happens when a champion who has a kit capable of dealing with any situation gets fed.

The protagonist wins.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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That’s what happens when a champion who has a kit capable of dealing with any situation gets fed.

The protagonist wins.

I know right ? I said before she fit almost every class aside from support and mage

ROYALR3IGNOct 24, 20181 votes

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2892512383/42005867?tab=overview

I'm assuming this is the game you're talking about, but I think you guys needed to draft more cc for her. That said I think she's a smurf looking at her match history, she generally stomps every match so it could be an issue with matchmaking too.

ValiantKillerOct 24, 20181 votes

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https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2892512383/42005867?tab=overview

I'm assuming this is the game you're talking about, but I think you guys needed to draft more cc for her. That said I think she's a smurf looking at her match history, she generally stomps every match so it could be an issue with matchmaking too.

There was another match with same problem, with cho in it