Can we get an Armor pen item specifcally for ADCs like Lucian, MF and EZ?

xxxMadLionxxx··2 votes·551 views

As soon as I saw the legality changes, I knew those champs would get hit hard. I thought they were suppose to be AD casters? yet those item changes don't favor them. The crit/cdr fromitem 3508 doesn't do much in terms of their spell damage, just their spell rotation and auto attacks.

It feels like the only AD casters that really benefit are assassins/melee champs.

Can we get an item for ADC ad casters?

19 Comments

Astôlfo3 votes

Oh fucking hell no. ADCs were never meant to EVER be able to ABUSE any armorpen other than %. Get over it. This is a fucking stupid thread.

Rivuo1 votes

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Oh fucking hell no. ADCs were never meant to EVER be able to ABUSE any armorpen other than %. Get over it. This is a fucking stupid thread.

You are correct. But Lucian and MF are suffering atm and thats a fact.. Dont need ar.pen but some buffs

Astôlfo2 votes

Yeah that'd be fine. Giving them back armorpen is not.

Rivuo1 votes

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Yeah that'd be fine. Giving them back armorpen is not.

Yep. i dont agree with a.pen tho so im with ya

Joman7672 votes

Last wisper, i honestly dont know why you made this thread

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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Last wisper, i honestly dont know why you made this thread

That only works against tanks.........

Maximum Morde4 votes

Because you don't need penetration against people who build no armor. Your damage is high enough.

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

Crit is way better against people without armor.

Rivuo2 votes

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Last wisper, i honestly dont know why you made this thread

Because lucian now has the lowest win rate as an adc.

Mfs win rate dropped hard.

The ad casters cant utilize crit build because it makes their skills do no damage.

I dont know why you had such a dumb reply

NodirjonSattarov3 votes

What do you think ADCs built at the beginning of S6? or previous seasons?

Ralanr2 votes

To be fair, the armor pen ADC builds were kinda nightmareish balance wise and made those ADCs unintentionally stronger than they should have been. That's one of the reasons for the changes towards lethality.

Now you're right that this does hurt caster ADCs more than it hurts heavy AA ADCs like Twitch or Vayne, but I don't think we should be making ADC specific armor pen items when the class is built around crit damage. It'd make more sense to buff the weaker marksmen or nerf those that are too strong.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Trinity force.

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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Trinity force.

It doesn't have armor pen/ lethality. Low ad and needs to use AA to proc. I'm talking about something that increases the damage of their actual abilities, not their AA.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

Blood thirster

xxxMadLionxxx1 votes

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Blood thirster

it doesn't have armor pen/lethality. The life steal only works with AA

18 NAKED COWB0YS1 votes

4Head

ZephyrDrake1 votes

item 3035 ?

Rebonack1 votes

Riot should make their skills scale with some degree via crit-chance. MF's Ult was the right idea. The same concept could be easily tuned for other AD Caster Marksmen.

Revali1 votes

Lucian and miss fortune can still build Black Cleaver, ezreals never really built pen, hes always been built blue or trinity manamune and ad items/onhit or some crit.

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