Boards›Gameplay

Brain Storm New Assassin Items

Woook3r··1 votes·787 views

Lets all brainstorm a better new ad assassin item for rito. They apparently too busy. Something that is cooler than a free execute with one auto like that nightfall passive.

I thought something like master yi's passive on his ulti would be better. Kills reset your abilities, maybe even your ulti. I sort of wonder what the game would be like if master yi also reset his ulti cooldown upon kill or assist. It would be fun to watch faker take yi midlane with this item available. The thing is, master yi is fun to watch once and a while, but he isnt someone you want to see all the time.

I also thought that a vision item that gives a bunch of dmg would be really good for them. So an assassin can have a yellow trinket but also scan a bush for themselves when they need to. I sort of like this item because it would put more pressure on them to rework akali. Its also really strong in that you can control vision when you are ahead and completely dominate the jungler and bot lane simultaneously. Also, I think making assassins more dependant on vision control rather than dmg would be good for the game. Right now, assassins will always be strong because of their dueling and dmg (facerollability). If they were more about vision than dmg, it would fit the whole "assassin" theme better because and assassin you can see is not supposed to be very dangerous, but atm an assassin you can see in this game is still very dangerous.

11 Comments

KrugLyfe2 votes

Yep assassins definitely need more items! Fuck mages and tanks am I right?

Woook3r1 votes

{quoted}

Yep assassins definitely need more items! Fuck mages and tanks am I right?

Well ad assassins are getting a new item. It might as well be one that makes the role more sensible and complex than super high dmg and easy target access.

Catastrop2 votes

{quoted}

I thought something like master yi's passive on his ulti would be better. Kills reset your abilities, maybe even your ulti. I sort of wonder what the game would be like if master yi also reset his ulti cooldown upon kill or assist.

This is why no one takes Gameplay seriously anymore.

Woook3r1 votes

{quoted}

This is why no one takes Gameplay seriously anymore.

I just come on here to talk about my ideas because thats what stimulates my own imagination. Yea. Sometimes I will throw out an idea that doesnt work, but if you punish someone for doing that then you really never get anywhere in design. I think the vision item has some merit regardless of the yi idea. Part of me just wants to see faker run amok on yi. You cant really blame me for that.

Wukong 0ne Trick1 votes

{quoted}

I just come on here to talk about my ideas because thats what stimulates my own imagination. Yea. Sometimes I will throw out an idea that doesnt work, but if you punish someone for doing that then you really never get anywhere in design. I think the vision item has some merit regardless of the yi idea. Part of me just wants to see faker run amok on yi. You cant really blame me for that.

Taking about your ideas =/= serious ideas

Hence

{quoted}

This is why no one takes Gameplay seriously anymore.

Woook3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wukong Mid Lane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Q09Txbu7,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-01-27T17:57:20.098+0000)

Taking about your ideas =/= serious ideas

Hence

you dont think the vision item has any merit?

Wukong 0ne Trick1 votes

{quoted}

you dont think the vision item has any merit?

Not really, vision is fine as it is. It gives laners a good amount of vision options while pushing the bulk warding on the jungler / support. Jungle is essentially a global support role anyways.

Woook3r1 votes

I thought that the vision item would create some interplay between phantom dancer and assassins. If the assassin surprises you and gets the first hit because of vision games, then phantom dancer doesnt help you against them, but if you get the first strike then phantom dancer reeeeally helps you duel that assassin.

So its about the question "does the assassin do a good job of imitating a real life assassin in being an unseen threat". If they do a bad job and get seen then the adc can apply phantom dancers passive and duel them. If they do the sneaky thing then they get the faceroll.

Phantom Dancer would even be a cool name for the theme because assassins are supposed to be like phantoms and this item would help you dance with them.

Rozair1 votes

Assassin's don't need items. Everyone else needs items to counter assassin's.

Woook3r1 votes

{quoted}

Assassin's don't need items. Everyone else needs items to counter assassin's.

Ad assassins are getting a new item. Get used to it.

Woook3r1 votes

Regarding the vision item. It gives a good bit of dmg in whatever way you might want it to (armor pen, ad, just whatever ok?), but the sweeper passive gets reset upon kill. Maybe even its a one shot passive (doesnt have a cooldown) and only resets upon kill because assassins should have some double edged oneshot mechanic. They can one shot you, but they only get one shot otherwise their cover is blown and they have to struggle through everything. Thats what a real assassin might face.

You could even sort of hype up the dmg on the item and link that dmg to the cooldown. It gives a lot of base ad, but you only get a lot of % armor pen for the first 3 seconds after you activate and sweep your bush. If you dont get the kill in the next 5 seconds, you cant even reset the cooldown for 30 seconds or more. Maybe it has a two stage active. One stage sweeps a bush. The next activation gives stats temporarily and stuff. That would be a new league mechanic in a lot of ways. Might expand the game.

Idk guys I think this would be a really cool idea and would be really easy to test on the pbe. There are a lot of ways to balance it bc of all the possible ways you can make that cooldown work. Just create a bunch of iterations of this item and put them all on the pbe at once. See which one does what you need it to do, and then pick the one that makes for the coolest gameplay.

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay764 comments
7,167
votes
3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay156 comments
3,510
votes
UPVOTE FOR URF
Gameplay606 comments
2,440
votes
Yes plz.
Gameplay456 comments
1,721
votes
3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay114 comments
1,716
votes
When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?
Gameplay634 comments
1,383
votes

More by Woook3r

I hate yasuo
Gameplay165 comments
171
votes
Riots Solution to Immobile Mages (make them more mobile)
Gameplay201 comments
168
votes
Give players who play 75% or more games as solo players a special banner to signify their ability.
Gameplay54 comments
116
votes
yep. we gonna see lucian nerfs before we see zed nerfs.
Gameplay115 comments
102
votes
Meddler: "We noticed that a lot of people were buying alacrity"
Gameplay111 comments
93
votes
so i cant qss zed ult now? is that what you are saying?
Gameplay85 comments
69
votes