"Weak early game"

Onotori·May 2, 2018·3 votes·826 views

What does that mean? It takes her three autos instead of two to kill you?

'cause Vayne's early game is anything but "weak" -- unless "early game" means "before level 2"

10 Comments

NaymlissMay 2, 20185 votes

She's only weak to lane bullies. Anything besides a lane bully can't punish her hard enough for her "weak early game" to matter.

EedatMay 2, 20183 votes

Vayne is trash tier early. Weak early doesnt mean you can play like shit and still autowin

OnotoriMay 2, 20181 votes

Trash compared to what? An imaginary ADC that does more damage than her?

redniwediSMay 2, 20182 votes

Try comparing her to a champion with a strong early game.

MorganFreemanBotMay 2, 20181 votes

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Try comparing her to a champion with a strong early game.

A 'weak' early game should put you below champions who have an 'average' early game. The problem is that Vayne's early game isn't actually weak, it's just average. This is exacerbated by the fact that she's extraordinarily safe early on due to her E.

redniwediSMay 2, 20182 votes

Instead of setting an arbitrary set of guidelines and comparing her off of that, compare her to other late game marksmen and look at their early games right now. You'll see a trend.

Then compare her to marksmen that are said to have a strong early game. You'll see a difference.

z63XnLCMwXMay 2, 20182 votes

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Trash compared to what? An imaginary ADC that does more damage than her?

She's weak against a good draven, MF, Xayah and any point click support like annie.

EedatMay 2, 20182 votes

Hmm why dont we look at some actual data?

http://na.op.gg/champion/vayne/statistics/adc

Hmmm sure is weird how Vayne has like a 44% WR from 0-25 minutes. I guess that means She's strong early because someone who is obviously mad they arent as good as the person who crushed them last game decided to make a garbage salty shitpost on the board

Sona PingMay 2, 20182 votes

People consistently -sometimes deliberately- try to make "weak" mean "the champion is helpless", which would of course make them unplayable, and not what the word weak actually means, deficient compared to an average.

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What does that mean? It takes her three autos instead of two to kill you?

'cause Vayne's early game is anything but "weak" -- unless "early game" means "before level 2"

I understand that you are doing a thing here, but champions having an advantage of more than 80AD starting at level 1 would actually be huge.