2019 and Sheen is still bugged on Graves.

Neriticc··13 votes·9,915 views

Trinity Force is probably the best Graves item for top lane except Sheen doesn't activate at all when Graves uses his E. You expect to E, get Sheen proc, then auto attack with the extra damage but the E doesn't apply anything. Absolutely ridiculous.

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BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votes

Don’t need a 3k health with empower right click to plague the game.

There’s a reason why Riot has left it, he’s already frustrating enough.

Alzon7 votes

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Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Is it a bug or an intentional feature though?

Neriticc5 votes

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Is it a bug or an intentional feature though?

Why would it be an intentional feature? It’s an ability. I should be getting Sheen procs after I use it.

Warlord Rhinark3 votes

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Why would it be an intentional feature? It’s an ability. I should be getting Sheen procs after I use it.

Could be intentional due to how his basic attacks work.

I mean, how would Sheen even work? Would each pellet apply the full Sheen damage to the targets they hit? Would the Sheen damage be divided between each pellet? Would it only apply Sheen if all pellets hit the same target?

That's why I'm thinking it might be intentional.

Neriticc2 votes

Here’s the thing. Graves Q and W gives Sheen proc for your auto attack but Graves E doesn’t apply anything. It makes no sense.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

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Here’s the thing. Graves Q and W gives Sheen proc for your auto attack but Graves E doesn’t apply anything. It makes no sense.

Well, in that case, it's probably a bug, though you could have specified that in your post.

Z3Sleeper2 votes

I think it goes without saying that if he specifically states that E doesn’t work with Sheen, then every other ability does.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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I think it goes without saying that if he specifically states that E doesn’t work with Sheen, then every other ability does.

Well, he didn't say Sheen doesn't work with E specifically, he just said it doesn't work with the E.

I just assumed (because I build Sheen on Graves in the first place) that none of his abilities proc Sheen because of the way his autos work.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

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Well, he didn't say Sheen doesn't work with E specifically, he just said it doesn't work with the E.

That's the same thing lol. He specifically mentioned that it doesn't work with E. He didn't make a broad statement saying it doesn't work with Graves' abilities or some abilities, he specifically stated it doesn't work with E.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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That's the same thing lol. He specifically mentioned that it doesn't work with E. He didn't make a broad statement saying it doesn't work with Graves' abilities or some abilities, he specifically stated it doesn't work with E.

Again, like I said, I just assumed he meant it doesn't work with all of the abilities, as I never build Sheen on Graves myself, so I wouldn't know if the problem only applies to his E.

I don't know why we're arguing semantics.

Quepha1 votes

Also it works with his E.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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Also it works with his E.

Okay, now I'm really confused.

darkness44981 votes

It seems to proc, when you use his E with both shells loaded, but not with one or zero.

Neriticc1 votes

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Also it works with his E.

But it doesn’t though. Try it out in practise.

Quepha1 votes

I did try it in practice before posting about it in here. It's annoying to me that you clearly did not. https://imgur.com/7duLF5C

Kirov1 votes

Unfortunately its similar ludens on AP sion. Normally would be a great item for him but its bugged on his E where it will kill the minion you're trying to punt instantly if the damage from the ludens proc would be enough to kill it instead of applying it after the minion stops like his E normally does without ludens. Been this way forever....

Z3Sleeper1 votes

What happens? From my understanding it should be working like this:

  1. Sion E's a minion
  2. The minion takes magic damage from the E, causing Ludens to proc on the minion at the point of impact and damage enemies around it
  3. The minion then takes off, damaging anything in its path but not applying Ludens due to it already being procced

Is this not what's happening?

DarkTree11 votes

"just use ur q or w to proc sheen instead lol"

Quepha1 votes

Graves' E triggers spellblade from Triforce as one would expect. Tested it in a practice game just now.

I don't know what the OP is talking about.

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