Can we revert to 8.10 already?

Rexxiee·Jun 25, 2018·2 votes·940 views

Game has never been in such a worse state, its actually baffling on how stuff like gold funneling hasant been hotfixed, and they think by nerfing taric and buffing yi they are gonna do anything lmao.

You cant possibly take half a season to restore any semblance of balance to the game riot, or you might aswell close the esport and competitive scene, removing adcs from the game and making bot a snowball fiesta, mid laners playing 0 cs supports, massive snowball everywhere, weak towers, weak baron that wins you the game with its buff 20 mins in, and i could keep going here.

6 Comments

JunkοJun 25, 20182 votes

Can we stop pretending you are seeing this in your games? Because no you aren't seeing Taric mid with Yi taking all farm in your games. And neither are you seeing successful non ADC bot lanes, because every one I have seen has feed their ass off.

Were the ADC nerfs to far? Yeah absolutely, the base stat changes were completely unnecessary. And yes ADCs are weak right now, games end too early for ADCs to have an impact in most games anymore, but most ADCs when they get their core items can still carry games with proper positioning (most just suck and don't). But they are not being overtaken by bruisers or mages bot lane, their niche of destroying turrets would still be needed if the turrets weren't so pathetically weak(Ziggs is the only mage that can do this otherwise), and their niche of killing tanks cannot be done by bruisers and mages, but the games are just too short for tanks to come online right now.

Dope SoloJun 25, 20181 votes

Actually I've been wondering whether the Taric/Yi thing is more of a symptom. That, once riot "fixes" it, some other strategy will pop up because its a systemic problem within the game itself, laid bare by the lack of the stable adc support traditional style. I'm not sure we've seen the last of this at all.

BEK MakadurJun 25, 20181 votes

The strat works with alot of champions and combinations, some better than other(yi/taric too strong i.e.) But it isn´t new to league it just wasn´t popular in 5v5(3v3 it is).

RexxieeJun 25, 20181 votes

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Can we stop pretending you are seeing this in your games? Because no you aren't seeing Taric mid with Yi taking all farm in your games. And neither are you seeing successful non ADC bot lanes, because every one I have seen has feed their ass off.

Were the ADC nerfs to far? Yeah absolutely, the base stat changes were completely unnecessary. And yes ADCs are weak right now, games end too early for ADCs to have an impact in most games anymore, but most ADCs when they get their core items can still carry games with proper positioning (most just suck and don't). But they are not being overtaken by bruisers or mages bot lane, their niche of destroying turrets would still be needed if the turrets weren't so pathetically weak(Ziggs is the only mage that can do this otherwise), and their niche of killing tanks cannot be done by bruisers and mages, but the games are just too short for tanks to come online right now.

I actually see this shit all the time in diamond elo, ive played 3 games back to back against taric yi the other day and its completely obnoxious because the whole game revolves around your jungler, if hes bad and doesnt pressure side lanes and snowball then you just auto lose the game 15 mins in because then yi is gonna faceroll your team with taric, its completely unfun to play against that as a top/bot laner.

The only adcs you ever see played are lucian, ezreal and kaisa (and the later 2 have pretty bad win rates), so legit the only adc with a positive wr that you see a lot is lucian if not banned, bot lane right now is basically mage support + mage carry or a early game bruiser or yasuo/irelia (who just auto wins vs every ranged carry by default), and it doesnt help since those new champs going bot snowball even harder than traditional adcs did, making the game a even more of win by 20 or lose by 20 in a snowball fashioned way, so as much as ppl liked to complain about them, they were much, much better for the game health than playing against shit like brand + zyra or darius/irelia/vlad/yasuo + whatever mage support/all in.

And talking about adc if you exclude those 3 i probably see an "traditional" adc 1 every 10 games or even less, something more specific like an ashe or jinx? I dont think ive seen one all week, other than myself playing jinx sometimes because i just love playing her even if shes terrible atm.

DW DianaJun 25, 20181 votes

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Game has never been in such a worse state, its actually baffling on how stuff like gold funneling hasant been hotfixed, and they think by nerfing taric and buffing yi they are gonna do anything lmao.

You cant possibly take half a season to restore any semblance of balance to the game riot, or you might aswell close the esport and competitive scene.

Sorry but from a Malzahar main who was ignored and laughed at by the community as Riot destroyed my favourate champion, I'm getting a certain amount of pleasure from other people seeing their lane/role/champions destroyed like mine was.

AP is mostly dead now, ADC's are starting to feel some pain (not as much as AP champions but they're getting there xD), and it actually makes no difference to me as 2 months before any of this Riot killed Malz and you all laughed. The funny thing is Malz was the counter to the champions you're all complaining about! Karma is real (seriously I saw her on the rift! xD)

RekSai CoffeeCoJun 25, 20181 votes

Actually OP we would need to revert to 8.9 as 8.10 brought out the stupid jungle/scuttle changes which in itself created a lot of problems.

So if they go back to a patch go back to 8.9, get a new development team that knows what they are doing and maybe actually play the game and then go from there.