Guesses on how long before new champ gets a rework?

only zhule·12/12/2019, 2:54:16 AM·11 votes·10,188 views

I'm going to be honest unless this guy has INSANELY high cooldowns on all his abilities, i think this champion is going to be a train wreck. How do you balance a champion with 10+ passives, and 10+ actives?

Like honestly lets look at this guy. He has a turret, a medium range lifesteal auto, a passive slow that can also be a multi stun, a very fast short range/ melee attack that adds bonus damage to 3/4 of his other weapons, a cone AOE effect with larger AOE if it crits, and a long range poke that allows you to trigger an unlimited range heal/slow/ bonus damage/ or AOE.

Like MAYBE this can be balanced with limited ammo on every gun, but this dude is getting 50 triggers of each weapon effect and even if he runs out of ammo he gets a new gun (and new combo of abilities) instantly.

31 Comments

Dope Solo12/12/2019, 4:23:07 AM11 votes

Riot no longer cares about the integrity of the game.

Saezio12/12/2019, 10:28:54 AM8 votes

Riot employee no 1: How about this champion that has 5 different weapons and all his spells change with each weapon and he can hold 2 weapons at once? Riot employee no 2: Sure sure, but how do we avoid another Irelia/Akali fiasco? I don't like balancing at all mate. Riot employee no 1: What if I told you we don't even need to balance him? Bob here used to work with the TfT team, he will explain. Bob: i GoT tHRee LeTteRs foR yOu gENtS, r N G

Romans VI XXIII12/12/2019, 8:46:14 PM6 votes

I mean...surprise? its a CertainlyT champion, of course its going to be completely overloaded, and be a balancing nightmare, thats part of the package.

iiGazeii12/12/2019, 2:56:28 AM5 votes

Aphelios doesn't have all of those effects at once. At any given moment, he can only hit you with two basic abilities and his ult. Most champs can throw three basic abilities and an ult at you. If he times it right, he can maybe do more, but that only happens infrequently. It takes him a while to burn through the ammo in one of his guns.

ArfBarkBoof12/12/2019, 7:48:21 PM5 votes

He was a collab champion with CertainlyT helming the design with all those passives he shoved into it. Rather than doing anything outside of ignoring Warwick's Blood Hunt bug that's been around forever, he's not going to get anything more than maybe a light slap on the wrist.

Spooky Skeleton12/12/2019, 11:05:17 AM4 votes

If you can't easily explain a champions kit to a newer player, then that champion shouldn't be in league. I dont know who came up with him or why he has to have all this crap in his kit, but boy what a mistake.

League became popular due to the simplicity of the game, it was super easy to pick up and play.

Arammus12/14/2019, 1:16:22 AM4 votes

how do you rework a champ that has 20 spells (as you mentioned yourself)? you cant.

Bârd12/13/2019, 2:22:16 AM4 votes

He's fine.

Even if he theoretically has a lot of shit, there's a ton he doesn't have.

Reliability. Nothing he has can be used on demand, you need to have it ready. Having a slow in your kit doesn't mean shit if you're on Chakram+Severum and Trynd is going for you NOW.
Mobility. He has a small speed boost on one ability, and that's all he's got.
Durability. He's squishy as fuck.

Worst JG Wins12/12/2019, 1:58:47 PM3 votes

He won't. Riot's current balance team is sadly more concerned with their champs being "edgy and different" and less concerned with balance. If they were concerned at all with balance the only champs released the past 3 years would be Kayn, Neeko, Ornn and maybe Senna.

option paralysis12/12/2019, 10:42:09 AM3 votes

aphelios just did 1800 dmg to me in half a second, Idk how but hey man he's an adc so it's ok. :)

RadeticDraws12/12/2019, 12:01:07 PM2 votes

If they reduce the amount of ammo he has in each weapon, the faster he will be switching between them. Do you want that? Neither do I. At least in his current state he isnt pick or ban from what i saw

Dynikus12/12/2019, 2:56:50 AM2 votes

but from the look of it this dude is getting like 40-100 triggers of each weapon effect

every gun has 50 rounds Q* (not W) uses 10 rounds every time (but can still be used if he's under 10)

he has a convoluted kit, but I don't think it will be that hard to balance.

NaughtyWord12/14/2019, 9:31:53 PM1 votes

With as overloaded as Aphelios is, someone at Riot owes Kalista an apology. She didn't have even half the amount of abilities as at her peak and they dumpstered her for it.