Congrats riot, you made adcs trash tier to the point its better to just play something else bot

Rexxiee·Jun 9, 2018·8 votes·2,257 views

Pros practicing vlad/irelia/yasuo/renekton bot lane.

"but my variety", yeah great variety you get there by completely killing a whole class of champions, 90% of the adc pool can only go bot lane and now they are unplayable because they cannot lane against that shit and now they have nowhere else to go, all becuase you had to nerf their base stats ON TOP of the fleet AND items nerfs, all in the single patch.

Right when you think the balance couldnt get any worse.

29 Comments

RatpieJun 9, 20187 votes

wow you mean ADCs are not insta gods all the time? say it aint so!!!......no, adcs now are what they shoudl be. Carries that have to build.

DuskDaUmbreonJun 9, 20184 votes

Except his point is that carries simply aren't viable.

Everyone who isn't blatantly biased against every single marksman is in agreement that the nerfs were just too harsh

IziMytTJd7Jun 9, 20182 votes

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wow you mean ADCs are not insta gods all the time? say it aint so!!!......no, adcs now are what they shoudl be. Carries that have to build.

Except without the carrying part.

RatpieJun 9, 20182 votes

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Except without the carrying part.

They carry fine, you just actually have to build up to it. They are not carries in the first 2-3 items now.

ISeeDumbPeopleJun 9, 20181 votes

except the game usually ends at 2 to 3 items... lol.

SwarmerJun 9, 20183 votes

Now only 3-4 adcs somehow can compete, others, just cant get there before the game ends... Now you need 4 items, which are way to expensive, and with 300 farm and some kills only after 35th minute you can get, to actually be viable, but games rarely go to 30+ min.

All i see, what wins games now are double assassins. And ye, kind of sad, that a 0-0-0 assassin can turretdive adc and kill it in 0.4 sec without getting hit at lvl 3.

Look at leblanc, fizz now, what they are doing i mid, they just oneshot everything. And actually some tanks were already unkillable before this patch, and next patch after they made useless adcs, they will make volibear adcs.

RatpieJun 9, 20181 votes

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Now only 3-4 adcs somehow can compete, others, just cant get there before the game ends... Now you need 4 items, which are way to expensive, and with 300 farm and some kills only after 35th minute you can get, to actually be viable, but games rarely go to 30+ min.

All i see, what wins games now are double assassins. And ye, kind of sad, that a 0-0-0 assassin can turretdive adc and kill it in 0.4 sec without getting hit at lvl 3.

Look at leblanc, fizz now, what they are doing i mid, they just oneshot everything. And actually some tanks were already unkillable before this patch, and next patch after they made useless adcs, they will make volibear adcs.

I agree there are certain burst champs that are too strong as well. BRing them back down a little and the game may finally be a bit more sane. Damage was too high all around.

MíelláJun 9, 20183 votes

Yeah, they wanted to do that.

AR URFJun 10, 20182 votes

The narrative that "adc's were overpowered" needs to die and is completely false.

OurLestradeJun 9, 20181 votes

Change can't come without pain, it'll balance itself out eventually. Did you expect one patch to suddenly fix everything without issues?

Kurt HyzanJun 9, 20181 votes

Because being god-tier hardy carry with 1,5 item was fine I guess. I'm happy this trash class is finally taken away, the game doesn't revolve around them. Since s1, they're the only thing played botlane with a support (and don't tell me " Mordekaiser Ziggs wErE plAyEd boTlanE" that shit lasted for 1 week)

SwarmerJun 9, 20181 votes

that shit lasted for full 6 patches. Now rito will break the game even more with this tank vs assassin meta

Hypochondria9Jun 9, 20181 votes

Fuck ADCs they have been too strong as a class for far too long.

OniZetsu666Jun 9, 20181 votes

Good now can we get a nerf to fucking assassins. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

RatpieJun 9, 20181 votes

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Good now can we get a nerf to fucking assassins. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I do not think it is just assassins that need some tweaking. I think it is a whole group of high burst champs. While ADCs I believe are where they should be, burst AD champs are still too high as well and make it an uneven match. If those were brought down, then I think things would be healthier.

D357R0Y3RJun 9, 20181 votes

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RexxieeJun 9, 20182 votes

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https://clips.twitch.tv/HumbleExcitedNarwhalFreakinStinkin?tt_content=player_title&tt_medium=clips_embed

Have you tried playing caitlyn or any crit adc against yasuo or irelia bot lane in this patch?

Or even renekton? In diamond +?

If you did you'd see what im talking about.

D357R0Y3RJun 9, 20181 votes

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against yasuo or irelia bot lane in this patch?

No because i make sure to ban Irelia in every game Yasuo winning against an adc is not a surprise to me since his mechanics counters them If i see a yasuo i instalock Mordekaiser since this is what they do in korea

Or even renekton?

the fuck? feel free to show me which challenger adc mains play renekton because yet i only saw deft imp ruler playing morde irelia yasuo

If you did you'd see what im talking about.

Yea, Crit adcs suck that's a shame right? welcome to the daily life of mid/top/jungle mains that have to deal with meta shifts everytime, sometimes lee dominates the jungle, sometimes it's sejuani zac skarenr, sometimes it's even kindred and hecarim sometimes it's graves or kha

in other words adapt i started to play like korean adcs, playing only lucian jhin yasuo morde

RexxieeJun 9, 20182 votes

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No because i make sure to ban Irelia in every game Yasuo winning against an adc is not a surprise to me since his mechanics counters them If i see a yasuo i instalock Mordekaiser since this is what they do in korea

the fuck? feel free to show me which challenger adc mains play renekton because yet i only saw deft imp ruler playing morde irelia yasuo

Yea, Crit adcs suck that's a shame right? welcome to the daily life of mid/top/jungle mains that have to deal with meta shifts everytime, sometimes lee dominates the jungle, sometimes it's sejuani zac skarenr, sometimes it's even kindred and hecarim sometimes it's graves or kha

in other words adapt i started to play like korean adcs, playing only lucian jhin yasuo morde

Dude, even when riven is bad (like she is now) she IS playable if i want to be bothered to play her, yes its going to be worse than the top picks but its not unplayable.

The problem is that you cant play crit adcs now, even if you want to, unless you want to lose that is, because there is no rune setup or build that can save your ass from the current bullshit thats going on bot lane.

So you main a champ like jinx? well have fun having no place on the game LMAO.

And theres a guy spamming bot lane renekton with a stupid high wr to challenger on a smurf, forgot the name tho.

D357R0Y3RJun 9, 20181 votes

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And theres a guy spamming bot lane renekton with a stupid high wr to challenger on a smurf, forgot the name tho.

a guy? idc about what a single guy did there was someone who got challenger with bot lane darius last season

irelia or yasuo or morde are played by EVERY adc main

Also jinx was always underplayed anyway, and if irelia and yasuo become meta then HOW THE FUCK do you expect jinx to be good?

it's as if toplane mains expected tanks to be very good when Darius would be meta in every game

kaironenJun 9, 20181 votes

Crit adcs have gotten to the point where you get flamed for losing lane on them every single game. Yes, people's attitude can be rude if you are losing lane on any champion but if you just do not die in lane as a crit adc, you will get flamed for not being able to do anything in teamfights (until 3 items). Other champions can and possibly should be viable at some point, but if like 50 to 75% of adcs have no place in this game, then it just feels bad to play the lane.

RatpieJun 9, 20181 votes

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Have you tried playing caitlyn or any crit adc against yasuo or irelia bot lane in this patch?

Or even renekton? In diamond +?

If you did you'd see what im talking about.

Don't pick a caitlyn into that, and if it a problem use one of your bans for yas. If someone picks Yas bot, there are so many champs that can squat on him all day.

D357R0Y3RJun 9, 20181 votes

exactly Mordekaiser smashes any melee champion

and Mordekaiser gets smashed and kited by ranged champions

it's just strategy

UnboundHadesJun 9, 20181 votes

dont even try to say that shit about adcs dieing there has always been 3-5 adcs viable at a time this is no different but theres actually other champs instead of the bullshit that is adcs bot lane

ModWulf HelhammerJun 9, 20183 votes

There’s a big difference between “a few ADCs are the best but the rest are still good” and “3 or 4 ADCs are viable and the rest are trash”

SoƒiaJun 9, 20181 votes

I understand the pain of having most of the champs you play hard nerfed.

However you really should just adapt to the changes. Don't be like all of the people on here that were crying rivers about how ADC literally made them have no impact on the game a few months ago, or people whining about mana changes, or jungle changes. There are a few ADCs that are very playable and maybe you could learn Irelia/Yasuo/Mord as well if you wanted.

So yeah my advice is just adapt to the changes, that's what makes a player much more respectable, rather than someone who says they're going to quit and the game is dying, etc because their playstyle got changed. Eventually we'll go full circle and they'll be crying about adcs again