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I will say this about eve until i am blue in the face

Succubús GF··3 votes·203 views

She Does Not Need Damage Buffs Just literal garbage that you released a rework for a season that isn't here yet, That's like buffing janna for an item that hasent come out yet . Like y tho.

The only thing(s) I want tweaked: ~Her inability to do anything after her cooldowns are used. Her autoes are like, annie autoes but in melee range. If the target is anything less than 30-is% percent hp. They will just outright outduel you, which every single jungler can do. ~ Her stealth range should lower (At the least with level or like with kill amount or something D: ) ~Her base mov. speed would be nice if it was higher but it isn't a complete deal breaker that it is low. ~ E Range larger/ Ult on a somewhat lower cd considering how reliant she is on it. Obviously if she got EVERYTHING, she probably would be too op. But id like these areas looked at and I'm sure other eve players would too, considering how shes kinda garbo rn imo

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The Last Ballad1 votes

Just literal garbage that you released a rework for a season that isn't here yet,

If you were in charge of constructing a building, and you knew that in two weeks after you start the construction process there would be a policy change that would require you to redo all the work you did under the current policy, would you insist on doing it the current way and have to redo it all, or would you just start following the new rules?

Why should Riot create more work for themselves trying to get Eve balanced for this system, when this system isn't going to exist in two weeks(1 month after her release), and her balance is going to be thrown into chaos just like every other champ? We aren't talking about 3-4 month gap here. Not to mention the new runes were already on the pbe(and still are), so how exactly were/are they supposed to balance her for the current one? They have no way to do so, as the current system doesn't exist on the pbe during the time that they would be submitting potential changes.

Succubús GF1 votes

If you have blueprints for a building, make a coffee shop for said building that will change in about two weeks. Would you put the coffee shop out? Or would you wait for the building to finish that way you don't have to rebuild.

The point is she

  1. Should not be balanced solely on runes, that's just fucking stupid. 2)Should have better things in her kit. Sorry is there a rune that betters her e gap close? Oh there isn't? Minus like predator but that cd is a fucking joke regardless. 3)Should NOT have been released before then IF she was balanced around season 8
Kai Guy1 votes

  1. The games balanced on runes. a good runepage compaired to a bad one on a champ currently can provide several hundred gold in stats at level 1. Runes are also key to making some goofy off meta builds. New rune mastery systems might be new and more user friendly but runes have a massive impact currently.

  2. Her E is not her gap closer. Position to cut folks off for easy W triggers, Or move in fast with a WQ slow to set up the E. For chaseing long targets, many times your better off using R for a flash then E or Q rather then flashing to R. See this mistake a lot. If they are low enough for R to execute odds are they are low enough for you to kill with E and Q, so its just a matter of deciding on which options less risky and paying attention to your cooldowns. Oh and also MS runes would make her E better for gap closing as they put her into range faster to use it, still would not recommend considering her E as a gap closeing tool thou.

  3. Shes not in that bad of a state currently. Skill ceiling and mob mentality are just not in her favor.

Succubús GF1 votes

  1. The game isn't SOLELY balanced on runes, which is why scalings, exist. If you have ever been on pbe, youd understand that new runes weren't even that good on her in general.

  2. Again, have you played her? GAP CLOSER, CLOSING IN THE GAP BETWEEN ONE CHAMP OR THE OTHER I.E A DASH. Her e is a 225~ ish gap closer. Literally right there in the definition if yous just, read and comprehend. Using a 100+ Second ult for a gap closer is bad design btw. Unless you are playing zed.

  3. She\s been sitting at 45% wr since release. She is 100% in a bad state. Anyone with a brain will run under turret when they see the charm forming. Ganking is just generally impossible post 6 as well.

Kai Guy1 votes

  1. I'm not trying to claim the game is solely balanced on runes. I feel its pretty self evident a champions kit matters greatly, as do items. I'm suppose it was a misunderstanding owning to my opening "The games balanced on runes". My bad for a lack of clarity, I wanted to point out that runes are integral and have strong impact so its silly to not expect to see champions get balanced with out taking runes into consideration.

  2. Yes, but its the weakest range on everything you can do with her to close in. Again I suppose I'm not being clear, its not what I consider her best tool to get into range of enemy champions to damage them. I feel its better to use WQ to open then try to rush in to her 225ish range... to close 225 ish distance off her e. I'm not saying you need to only use her R for gap closeing, just that its range extends beyond her camo and is much higher then 225. I have seen a lot of plays where folks find a low hp target, sneak up as far as they can in camo, flash then ulti. Your burning SS and R for that play when you frequently could just R backwards to teleport right onto them then get the kill with an E. Far as the arguments that her W is useless, I don't agree and that's off in game usage. If your of that mindset its trash, well that's fine but we wont see eye to eye on it, which is also fine. I just don't like seeing folks misusing a kit, Here is some footage I grabbed to showcase what you can do with R as a movement tool.

  3. So? Have we not seen champions on release be low win rates before? Shes still new, give her time. Her play rate skyrocketed, so her win rate plummets. She can position for W better then several jungles can, so I don't get why folks feel that 2.5 seconds is enough for folks to live. If it was so easy to get to tower range in that time, a ward would ensure that only jungles who can leap walls would be able to get kills on ganks, many champions require longer then 2.5 seconds to get into their effective range for jungleing yet they are still able to gank. Eve can position to be in a threatening location at the start of the W cast.

The Last Ballad1 votes

No champ is balanced solely on runes, but every champ is balanced upon what buffs they have available. Which includes runes, along with items and kit mechanics.

It can take months to get a new champ balanced, would you really want to start a several month long balancing triad if multiple key components of what you are balancing around is being replaced, which will restart the entire thing. It makes no sense to do so(though I agree that maybe they should have waited for the new season, but they didn't so what are they going to do). And again, the new runes have been on the pbe since her pbe debut. How are they supposed to test changes for the current system if they don't have the current system on the pbe(while they are allowed to submit changes)?

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