@Meddler kog maw shouldnt have been part of the adc rework because hes not an adc. he is a mage...

Woook3r··3 votes·531 views

I have had fun playing kog maw as an adc and he can be great in that role, but I think you should have had him in the mage update not the adc update. His ult is a great spell for a mage. His w is decent for an adc, but its not that great. And his passive is complete crap for an adc. The rest of his kit needs to stop being weirdly marksmanesque and revolve around his ability to seige and poke with ap items.

I think azir kog would/could be a great matchup in the lcs. I think that kog maw in a duo lane is always overshadowed by the supports you find down there.

Also, buff draven. Reduce cooldown and mana cost on e so I can play more aggressively to get kills before my first back. I appreciate -20 mana on my ulti. But if you -20 mana on my e that would be better. Also, let axes spin down one by one in same way ashe stacks fall off one by one. 2 spinning -> 1 spinning -> no axes spinning. Both of these changes will help dravens mana, as I play him.

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Zach Sandwhich4 votes

Yep Kog maw is defiently a Mage, and your also probably one of the smartest people here!

(This was sarcasm if you couldn't tell)

Sohleks3 votes

IDK I think Riot convinced themselves AP Kog is "degenerate"

I think they're very wrong. They would just have to get rid of the E waveclear though so his laning isn't safe -ish. Let ult be the waveclear with a slight minion dmg boost. Then he can't trade with it with the ramping mana cost if that's what he did.

AP Kog ult was so very fun. There's no artillery champ in the game as high action paced as him potentially panning one screen left or right. They're usually low action paced. So I think it was bad to just shut it down without thinking about how can it be fair and viable.

AP Kog would still be BS in league of rylias though xd

LadyRenly1 votes

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IDK I think Riot convinced themselves AP Kog is "degenerate"

I think they're very wrong. They would just have to get rid of the E waveclear though so his laning isn't safe -ish. Let ult be the waveclear with a slight minion dmg boost. Then he can't trade with it with the ramping mana cost if that's what he did.

AP Kog ult was so very fun. There's no artillery champ in the game as high action paced as him potentially panning one screen left or right. They're usually low action paced. So I think it was bad to just shut it down without thinking about how can it be fair and viable.

AP Kog would still be BS in league of rylias though xd

but his E is literally all ap kog has going for him though. Its the only reason you play AP Kog. It has a long cooldown too, most times ap kog spends his lane under tower struggling to not go oom against a hard shoving Yasuo

Sohleks3 votes

I'd take base dmg nerf to the E so it's not a slimey slow little kinda nuke [to squishies] that clears the lane if it means making ap kog R fully operational again and not just a finisher.

Yeah it made AP Kog's laning phase easy to things that aren't bullies. A dissuading chunk that big in lane that clears it made it none interactive with his ranges.

IDK I thought I played AP Kog for the R. Not a slime carpet that chunks an entire screen for some reason.

Maybe the slime can become more caustic looking and become a dot instead. But then it's still good waveclear. But it's more of a combat nerf.

As far as AD Kog is concerned he's mostly only interested in the slow. Maybe the ability can be reworked.

I wish AP Kog was back with R being his focal point. Sniping with that kinda range was exhilarating. The other long range champions shoot linear things and aren't as spammy fun. And don't require as much positioning, accuracy or mana management. I would lose the E to let it work.

Wind Whistler1 votes

The other long range champions shoot linear things and aren't as spammy fun. And don't require as much positioning, accuracy or mana management. I would lose the E to let it work.

Yeah, there's just nothing like AP Kog'Maw anymore. My heart aches.

MissMikasa1 votes

Kog isn't a mage at all. Good Lord. Mages have at least one form of hard CC, Kog doesn't- he only has a slow, and he's majorly reliant on his attack speed. That's pure ADC right there.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

Vladimir among a couple others I'm sure

Veigarisgod11 votes

Mages don't need to have a form of hard CC. Vlad doesn't have hard CC, but he's still a mage. (kog maw is DEFINITELY not an mage tho)

MissMikasa1 votes

Most of them I mean. Kog is still nowhere near being classified as a mage.

Terminus Edge1 votes

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Mages have at least one form of hard CC

Karthus Kassadin Rumble Vladimir

Kass and Rumble are secondary mage, close enough.

Woook3r1 votes

ap kog saw more play in lcs last year than adc kog.

Veigarisgod11 votes

His w is decent for an adc

troll detected.

Calabok1 votes

HAHA funny

Kog a mage. ROFL.

Woook3r1 votes

his recent history in the lcs is as a mid laner.

420 grams1 votes

He can be. But it's really only good in aram.

Wind Whistler1 votes

His secondary is mage, guys... Give it a break. He's not wrong (but he's not exactly right, either).

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