what if we reverted ignite damage buff but gave it true sight

SwiftKitten88··30 votes·12,375 views

that way stealth could be dealt with better for champ who can no longer just drop a pink, but at the cost of a summoner spell and it needing to be cast BEFORE they turn invisible anyways.

ignite has always been a spell cast to secure kills, this would better "secure" the kill, and also make it less oppressive

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CIayman13 votes

And Pyke would actually die to ignite after pressing w at 15 hp

I approve

SwiftKitten889 votes

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And Pyke would actually die to ignite after pressing w at 15 hp

I approve

Truth be told that's exactly what inspired this thread. [sg-soraka]

Tr4shB4NSYST3M2 votes

That is such a tilting interaction. Pyke's passive is lowkey OP especially in solo q where ppl dont place their free wards much less buy pinks

Glaricion1 votes

Was playing Teemo against a top Pyke, he had 30hp and I had toxic shot on him.

Was rather peev'd to see him 15s later at ~25% hp.

koshkyra8 votes

It didnt even need buffs in the first place, so i dont think it should get compensation if it's reverted.

However, i'd be fine with this if ignite got a small damage nerf as well (in addition to the revert.)

AirKingNeo2 votes

However, i'd be fine with this if ignite got a small damage nerf as well (in addition to the revert.)

Ignite sucked before the buffs. You want to nerf it further?

koshkyra8 votes

You think that a SUMMONER SPELL doing 205 true damage at level 6 is ok?

AirKingNeo2 votes

Ignite sucked before the buffs.

You didn't respond to the argument.

koshkyra2 votes

You said ignite sucks and i responded with no it doesnt, what did i not answer?

AirKingNeo1 votes

because I said it sucked before the buffs.

You stated a number. You didn't provide information showing it did not suck before buffs.

Ahris2 votes

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You think that a SUMMONER SPELL doing 205 true damage at level 6 is ok?

You need to calculate hp regeneration as well

SwiftKitten886 votes

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You need to calculate hp regeneration as well

.... so then 200 damage? i mean it has grievous wounds too

LordGeovanni1 votes

more like 203 damage unless the target has 2 item 1006 then 200 damage

The thigh guy5 votes

A summoner spell should not have higher impact than a champions actual kit. Which ignite currently does for most champions.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Ignite sucked before the buffs.

You didn't respond to the argument.

LordGeovanni1 votes

summoner 4 summoner 4 summoner 4 summoner 7

CIayman1 votes

It didn't suck, but pro players preferred heal

And it appears they still do, so not sure what the point of the heal nerf/ignite buff was

LordGeovanni1 votes

heal also got buffs that it didnt need before ignite like speed increase and increased heal while heal has a stronger movement speed buff than ghost when ghost only has movement speed if ghost was gonna get that speed nerf in the beginning of its use it should have gotten compensted with 20% more capped movement speed

SithesisLord2 votes

Ignite sucked before the buffs

Exhaust has sucked ever since they removed the resistances reduction from it and there are no buffs in sight.

League of Ignite had its time in the spotlight. It's time for it to go and hopefully, if Riot stops smoking the sweet, sweet weed, it´ll never come back.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Ignite was totally fine for years. No reason to buff or nerf it. Was always a staple summoner spell in this game.

LordGeovanni1 votes

it was buffed because about a year or 2 before ignite got buffed heal got buffed several times with increased healing a movement speed buff and dual person healing. I only think it needed dual person healing out of those 3 buffs it got and after it got dual person healing heal should have been switched to supports as standard over adcs because supports some supports build heal increase while adcs can hold exaust for assassins

AirKingNeo1 votes

how? no one used it. Mid took tele instead.

The Highest Noon5 votes

I remember when ignite did have True Sight. Fun to see concerns for it go back to something it used to have. Reminds me of Ahri.

Tenth Leper1 votes

I like your idea!

(Though I think adding 0.25 sec duration back to exhaust would decrease ignite usage anyway)

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Riot wouldnt make a change like that because it would only work against specific champions. We already stopped cleanse from removing suppression specifically because you always took it against suppression champions so no reason to make ignite specifically counter stealth especially after riot made their changes with stealth having no counter in mind.

BLIGHTBRINGER1 votes

I just want it removed honestly. What use does it have othet than here's something to ensure I auto win the lane.

I would be all for your suggestion, if it meant that it would exchange a lot of it's damage in the process.

Prestige AkaIi1 votes

I'd be fine with ignite having True Sight. Would help counter Akali shroud too, if this happened maybe people would finally stop crying about her shroud.

Snowdrift2 votes

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I'd be fine with ignite having True Sight. Would help counter Akali shroud too, if this happened maybe people would finally stop crying about her shroud.

Except her shroud ignores true sight abilities. People would stop complaining about her shroud if it didn’t immediately drop all tower threat.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Its still up too long for its effective half second down time maybe 1.5 seconds max when akali gets cdr. but it not dropping tower agro would be nice

Prestige AkaIi1 votes

This is very hyperbolic, Akali doesn't do well stacking CDR no matter how much it may seem she does from an outward perspective, and even if she did it's at a 6.6s cd from 11 seconds when maxed, and the cd starts after her shroud dissipates.

She falls off late hard anyway, so the shorter cooldown helps her actually survive lategame teamfights. I'm not saying it's a super long cd, but it isn't as short as you're saying either.

LordGeovanni1 votes

except that you seem to be ignoring the part where the time it sticks around is extended for every time akali fades back into it so after every q and auto and e and auto its gonna be extended. not to mention that you getting at least 20% cdr to not get instagibed yourself item 3102 item 3157 which also allows for akali to dps with her q and e.

Prestige AkaIi2 votes

It doesn't ignore them. She's still revealed in the form of a bright white silhouette, she just isn't targetable. It's a big target for skillshots and aoe.

chipndip13 votes

Tower threat doesn't stop most assassins, so why should it stop this one?

5050BS1 votes

100% yes plz

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