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Why are empowered smites still in the game?

Rexxiee··2 votes·1,145 views

Jungle is already the strongest role in the game, jungle already gets to impact every lane very early on, why do they need extra damage or dueling on top of that? Those were created like in season 3 or something, back when junglers werent taking over the game and were mostly second supports (so it had a reason to exist back then), but that reason hasant been true for the last 2~3 years so i think its time for them to go.

You know, maybe it would be more bearable to play against junglers as a laner if shit like red smite didnt exist, solo lanes should have an edge on a 1v1 but right now junglers are so broken that they just walk up red smite and solo you, now you wonder why its so bad to get ganked nowdays, as if junglers right now do enough damage to basically 100-0 you at lvl 3 by themselfes imagine with an extra team mate on a 2v1? Its a free kill and free snowball into a 15 min win.

Stop ignoring the state of jungle and fix it already riot, it already got old a season ago, other roles want to also get to impact the game in the early game and junglers are holding ALL of the game impact in the first 20 minutes (basically the whole game if you're in high elo and know how to close with a massive lead), nice "TEAM" game right there.

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420 grams5 votes

So they can still have 2 summoner spells in combat

Rexxiee2 votes

[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PZxkplMd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-21T16:52:33.129+0000)

So they can still have 2 summoner spells in combat

The whole point is that one of the tradeoffs of being able to impact every lane was that they were weaker in combat 1v1 (because they sacrificed one summoner spell for objective control and jungle clearing).

Now that tradeoff doesnt exist anymore and JG is broken.

Bears Dont Care4 votes

Rexxie do you ever get bored of making these nerf jungle threads?

By the by, the reason is because jungler items are generally weaker than their lane counter parts.

They need a method to deal woth laners in the event they are invaded because jungler items provide no combat stats until they negin building items outside the machete build line. Laners have the doran line, they also get more gold and experience over time.

All i ever see you do is complain that junglers have an impact on the game, that they are.overpowered. Never once do you consider the negatives of playing a jungler.

Rexxiee2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bears Dont Care,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PZxkplMd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-21T18:00:13.117+0000)

Rexxie do you ever get bored of making these nerf jungle threads?

By the by, the reason is because jungler items are generally weaker than their lane counter parts.

They need a method to deal woth laners in the event they are invaded because jungler items provide no combat stats until they negin building items outside the machete build line. Laners have the doran line, they also get more gold and experience over time.

All i ever see you do is complain that junglers have an impact on the game, that they are.overpowered. Never once do you consider the negatives of playing a jungler.

There are no negatives to playing jungle.

So much that half of the challenger tier is basically made of jungle mains, theres more jungle mains in challenger compared to any other role in the game, and its absurd.

Jungle is just too strong, and i will keep making the threads until riot makes it so it isnt the best role in the game.

SmallCheeseCake3 votes

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There are no negatives to playing jungle.

So much that half of the challenger tier is basically made of jungle mains, theres more jungle mains in challenger compared to any other role in the game, and its absurd.

Jungle is just too strong, and i will keep making the threads until riot makes it so it isnt the best role in the game.

I'd argue mid is better.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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There are no negatives to playing jungle.

So much that half of the challenger tier is basically made of jungle mains, theres more jungle mains in challenger compared to any other role in the game, and its absurd.

Jungle is just too strong, and i will keep making the threads until riot makes it so it isnt the best role in the game.

Go and play jungle then. Seems to me you just like whining and complaining about every single little thing in the game. Why are you even here? You literally complain about everything

Bears Dont Care1 votes

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There are no negatives to playing jungle.

Lower amounts of gold and exp. Weaker early game. Weak.to invasions, counter jungling etc etc.

A junglers ganks are only as effective as the laner that assists. A jungler cannot go in and solo kill a laner if they are on equal footing purely due to a lack of a starting stat item.

So much that half of the challenger tier is basically made of jungle mains, theres more jungle mains in challenger compared to any other role in the game, and its absurd.

Many challenger players play multiple roles not just a singular rle.

Jungle is just too strong, and i will keep making the threads until riot makes it so it isnt the best role in the game.

It isnt, jungler is the most lanw reliant role in the game. Weak top your upoer numgle is gone. Weak bottom your dragon canmot be secured.

Weak mid means you are prone to invasions

Moody P1 votes

the entire point of jungling is being able to be a second or third opponent in lane ganks - there's not really any reason someone dedicated to that strength should have an equivalent (actually much stronger) 1v1 against a laner when comparing start item to a smite item that early in the game

Bears Dont Care1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PZxkplMd,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-10-22T00:25:30.078+0000)

the entire point of jungling is being able to be a second or third opponent in lane ganks - there's not really any reason someone dedicated to that strength should have an equivalent (actually much stronger) 1v1 against a laner when comparing start item to a smite item that early in the game

They dont outwide of duelist junglerw such as warwick.

Beatrice falls3 votes

Why am I still alive

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