Its dumb... but i dont know Gargoyle much yet. Whats its CD? And is it ACTUALLY dumb? IDK. What do people think about it? I feel like SOMEONE should at least mention it.
If you dont know about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9MxM2NmH5g
Hexs Fortune2 votes4 sec duration and cho only has 1 hard cc+ is immobile
He has a cute gimmick, but nobody is playing him
Skorch2 votesActually with his Ult change he has jumped a bit, but not a lot i guess.
And i still think this is a problem no matter the playrate
Wind Whistler1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PYEtk0TT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-09T06:09:21.264+0000)
4 sec duration and cho only has 1 hard cc+ is immobile
He has a cute gimmick, but nobody is playing him
Better remove him from the game, lmao.
KVbqbFsC8e2 votesHe's still pretty bad even with that interaction.
PermabannedGaren2 votesBecause it's just a gimmick that doesn't change the fact that Cho is still a very weak champion.
Raoul2 votesBecause Cho Gath right now is one of the worst Champions in the game and just because now you can actually have a window of power for 4 seconds every 60 seconds super lategame now doesnt make him a good pick either.
Cho Gath is a Champion with so many issues, that even the ability to onehit Squishys if you allow the game to last an hour doesnt make up for it!
Paroe1 votes@thread Dont. Let. The. Raidboss. GROW.
You need to devote people to stop him, otherwise he turns into a monster in the late game. Its the same with nasus and veigar; STOP HIM and its fine. With chogath, you just need to not feed him. he only gets 6 stacks from minions/monsters, which is a very reasonable amount of bonus HP.
Champion Skin1 votesAnd Cho'gath only has his ult which is basically melee range which is on a long cooldown so he is usually at most killing 1 target While Nasus and Veigar if they aren't dealt with they can shred through entire teams
Hexs Fortune1 votesThey should scrap Chogath's E and replace it with something more useful
kasfas1 votesI think the reason is how much more people want to talk about champions being much weaker now than before, instead of a weak champion getting better
Anags1 votesExcept this isn't a case of an item making a weak champ better. It's not a good rush item on him. Third buy at the earliest.
It really doesn't change cho much. He needs other items to help him get ahead. If he does get a lead then he doesn't even need this item to do his job.
It's a good defensive item bit doesn't address any major issues cho has.
Sire Hippington1 votesBecause even with that interaction, he's barely viable(atleast in higher elos) https://euw.op.gg/champion/chogath/statistics/top His winrate even went down with that patch...
Though i really wouldn't mind removeing that interaction from him and therefor giveing him a proper buff(preferably to his reliabillity rather than numbers).
Meep Man1 votesBecause he is still overall bad
Vallalan1 votespeople are noticing it. its just cho gath sucks. sure you can do this late game, but you gotta get there first. and you gotta build tank a long the way hitting like a wet noodle with easy to dodge abilities along the way.
it's just not worth it. its cheese at its finest.
cho gath needs a rework badly. poor guy has been left in the dust. hes so clunky and not in a good way. (sion is a good example of effective clunky)
logic3011 votesMy friend had 14k health with it on lol
Profirix1 votesBecause it is a gimmick that takes a lot of setup, a few "Hail Mary's", and a lot of luck to get to the state in which it is actually broken.
Once people got over the "ermagerd OP NERF PLS" and novelty of it they realized that it didn't really affect how much a team would win or lose.
