Wtf is with that champion not nerfed. How can people defend that piece of unbalanced bullshit?
How can a champion that deals 1.5k dmg with his normal spell and a mass CC be allowed in the league
And people lose their shit over Galio being strong.
That champion has 0 counterplay. he has an ultimate that instakills any champion bellow 3k hp.
All he has to do is defend 40 min, which is not so hard and the win the game with a pentakill
PhearBunny3 votesHonestly I agree with him. Veigar is way to overwhelming. Q Is a skillshot, yes. Can it be dodged? Not really, he can miss, but its so fast that its not really a dodgeable. His Q is basically his guaranteed damage. DArkmatter, yeah its avoidable, its really avoidable. Black cage however....is incredibly oppressive to a massive demographic of the champ pool. And pretty much freely allows a experienced Veigar player to oneshot people at will.
Not to mention its incredibly unfun to play against a Veigar.
archerno11 votesYes , defend 40 min with champion with no mobility
GripaAviara1 votesNo mobility ? What are you talking about, he has a long CC and team to compensate for his lack of mobility. He can instakill any assassin
He has a 52.5 win rate on mid and 56% win rate at 40 min mark, which is a standard game.
Durzaka1 votesGames don't go 40 min anymore at high level of play.
20-25 minutes is the standard right now, with some games dragging on
GripaAviara1 votesMaybe, but the 90% of the player base is not a high level. So being weak at high level is not an excuse for his kit
Durzaka1 votesAnd I am by no means a high level player, but of my last 20+ games, I havent had a single one last long enough for me to get to level 18, let alone full build.
Games are not 40 minutes on average anymore. That stopped being a thing in 6.0, for everyone, not just high level play.
archerno11 votesNo mobility ? What are you talking about, he has a long CC and team to compensate for his lack of mobility. He can instakill any assassin
He has a 52.5 win rate on mid and 56% win rate at 40 min mark, which is a standard game.
Average game time is 25 min. His cc isnt long and its not instan like it used to be. It has counterplay. Only if you try to cross border will it stun u and its radius is bigger than his w and q. If u have skill u can avoid damage. Not if that ASSASSIN has Maw and assassins wreck him on lane. He is easy to shut down. He has plenty of counter champions and items.
Bronze 6 Yasuo1 votesHahahahha you are a joke. Veigar has the most counter play in all of league of legends
GripaAviara1 votesCounter play? How you counterplay someone that instakills you?
Primaquarius1 votesPurple midget has two gaping flaws: 0 health and 0 mobility
Half of the viable mid picks can duel him with little worry
Bronze 6 Yasuo1 votesI'm going to stop arguing with bronze.
BlackFlux1 votesCounter play? How you counterplay someone that instakills you?
I don't know....pick something like 
even 
,instantly make his stun near worthless and harass him due to that? and I am bronze. 4. maybe 5 idk only in bronze cause my friends kept saying at least finish placements,probably decaying as I post. even pick support 
ADC if your a make a 
or 
could work...I mean even in bronze I can kite a veigar for about 30 seconds without getting hit.
GripaAviara1 votesMan, I'm not a mid player, man, so telling me to pick a good mid vs him is dumb.
DarkRitual1 votesQ is a skillshot. Can be dodged. W is a absurdly telegraphed bomb drop. Easily dodged. E is an AOE that stuns at the edge, has a small delay where it can be dodged. R is a nuke. Yeah sometimes he just presses R and you die, if you've fed him and not abused his weaknesses.
He is fairly slow, and has zero mobility. His E is on a very long cooldown. He does not have very high ranges on his abilities. He deals only magic damage, so building MR is very effective against him. Due to his stacking nature, his early game is very very weak.
He has plenty of counterplay, and plenty of time to shut him down to make him fairly useless for much of the game.
If you continually play into his E trap and get murdered over and over, yeah you're gonna get roflstomped by him and want to come make a qq rage thread on the forums instead of learning how to beat specific champions and become a better player overall.
ManWithNoBeard1 votes
<See, Plenty can deal with him.
Toxic is champions like:
When your team has no CC.