Can we get vision of inside Veigar's E as Veigar?

Kingsgrave··52 votes·2,312 views

It feels weird that we don't get to see who is trapped inside our cage or who is stunned

You can just run away from Veigar into brush and he won't be able to kill you or even see that he stunned you. Seems odd for such an important ability of his.

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PiRoScOuT9 votes

That wouldn't make sense seeing as the ability name is event horizon. That is the name of the part of a black hole where light doesn't come out of. One proposal I have read is making it so enemies don't have any vision of the outside if they are trapped in there, or it could give vision up to where the walls are.

Kingsgrave9 votes

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That wouldn't make sense seeing as the ability name is event horizon. That is the name of the part of a black hole where light doesn't come out of. One proposal I have read is making it so enemies don't have any vision of the outside if they are trapped in there, or it could give vision up to where the walls are.

It's a stun cage without any form of vision. Veigar can't torment those inside the cage if he doesn't have vision of them.

Basing how abilities work based on their names would be somewhat stupid. His E would just be Smokescreen at that point.

Reazale1 votes

He doesnt need more power on his E but elsewhere, i would trade that vision for more dmg on his Q-R or more reliavility on his W, this is not a buff Veigar truly needs as his lackings are elsewhere but would take away from his "power budget" if done (cos some champs have to pay for their power and others dont, and Veigar is of the ones who do).

ShadowParker2 votes

I actually really like the idea of enemies not being able to see outside once trapped inside. They'd never know where Veigar was, and or where all the random baleful strikes are coming from haha

rebound21 votes

Since when did League make sense?

LeeSin moves faster than half the champions in the game.

UPfreely4 votes

i wish it worked kinda like graves smokescreen denying vision too

Kingsgrave2 votes

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i wish it worked kinda like graves smokescreen denying vision too

That might be a bit much, but it would be nice.

Scrimshäw4 votes

i feel like if they did this, they would end up compensating him...

ElBoob1 votes

Yes... "Compensating."

Kingsgrave1 votes

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i feel like if they did this, they would end up compensating him...

Why? This would barely really have any effect other than allow him to actually kill people inside his cage in more than just a lane. I doubt it would really push him to the point where Riot would need to nerf him.

lB2kGRlc8y1 votes

Well, considering how easy it was to cheese his event horizon before compensation, I can see riot making many more awful decisions in response to such a buff. When they begin addressing his real issues, I may change my mind, but I somehow see them making more superficial buffs like range increases before they get the point.

Nublord4 votes

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It feels weird that we don't get to see who is trapped inside our cage or who is stunned

You can just run away from Veigar into brush and he won't be able to kill you or even see that he stunned you. Seems odd for such an important ability of his.

Veigar shouldn't see inside cage just cause it's his abillity... It's pointless and gives almost nothing. What should happen, since it's Event Horizon - the cage should work like Graves smokescreen, but instead giving limited sight while inside - it should block enemy vision about what's going on outside. Cause right now it's too easy to dodge that Veigar skills if you don't get stun (which is easy to avoid).

TenaciousKz3 votes

that's what W is for

Sir ArmaMalum2 votes

Would make for some interesting interactions around drag/baron and jungle mobs as well. +1

Sirsir2 votes

item 3340 ?

Kingsgrave2 votes

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item 3340 ?

I don't have a ward ready every 10 seconds for when I stun someone

Rakan Garfield2 votes

Wait, inside the whole thing? That's an unprecedented change. On the edges could be fine.

XShadowAlkX1 votes

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Mephistophilis1 votes

+1 big qol change

Digivolve1 votes

people inside the area are silenced;p god I would love that fuck stopping dashes just make it so they cant use skills;o

but vision in bushs would be a nice touch either on the W or the E,

lB2kGRlc8y1 votes

That would be ultimate level power, I actually like the way it works now, the issue is his dark matter, as its completely stun reliant.

4th3t0s1 votes

If a target is stunned, vision on the wall nearby the afflicted target would be reasonable for the sole purpose of landing his combo, but inside the whole area? Fuck no, the radius of that thing is effectively a scrying orb with less range and a 10-second cd; dragon and baron control be damned, let alone setting up an ambush against that.

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