once again LCS shows how unbalanced the game is

Ahristocats·Jan 19, 2017·5 votes·762 views

at least in diamond 1

Ivern leblanc camille

just wow better nerf darius and yasuo

28 Comments

RexSaurJan 19, 20177 votes

Be honest here, darius does need some small nerfs (which is exactly what hes getting, so not sure why you're complaining about that), and so does yasuo to his early game.

Sure they are both not as problematic as the god tiers atm, but it doesnt mean the small nerfs they are getting arent warranted.

Camille needs to get hammered hard though, you could split her kit into 8~9 different abilities, so you could make over 2 different champions with just her current kit, something has to go.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20171 votes

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Sure they are both not as problematic as the god tiers atm, but it doesnt mean the small nerfs they are getting arent warranted.

oh you make a point, they can definitly use a nerf everyone just realised how bullshit for darius to be nerfed MEANWHILE JAYCE ISN'T NERFED WHILE BEING TOP 1 FUCKING TOP LANE

this is league right there, nerf the champions that break the game a bit but the ones breaking hard the game are untouched

RexSaurJan 19, 20173 votes

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oh you make a point, they can definitly use a nerf everyone just realised how bullshit for darius to be nerfed MEANWHILE JAYCE ISN'T NERFED WHILE BEING TOP 1 FUCKING TOP LANE

this is league right there, nerf the least problematic champions but the ones breaking hard the game are untouched

Yeah, i have no idea how they are about to buff jayces items (lethality) and he still has 0 nerfs on pbe, but this is riot were talking about.

Big LincolnJan 19, 20173 votes

ivern is fucking stupid

i can deal with his bullshit daisy, i can deal with his dumb snare, his shield that does AOE damage even if you pop it, and his fucking bushes giving him range

i can not deal with his instant clear of whatever buff i'm not at. who the fuck thought this was okay ? shaco and nunu are unhealthy counterjunglers but ivern is completely fine?

let's nerf darius though

dominusxJan 19, 20172 votes

ivern is a horrible design. just like kled dunno why they ever made it out of the sketch book. camile is nice but overtuned as fuck.

RalanrJan 19, 20171 votes

What's wrong with Kled?

dominusxJan 19, 20172 votes

doublehp bar without building defence,ulti has counterplay but nonetheless is aids. His passive is also stupid as fuck the way he can become immune. at least right now he is undertuned so he isnt aproblem.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20171 votes

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at least right now he is undertuned so he isnt aproblem.

exactly, he's weak and i hope he never becomes good, what you forgot is also he can't be bursted for some reasons he becomes untargeable if skaarl disappears

dominusxJan 19, 20171 votes

i mean even in his current form if he happens to get a kill its like over. you cant do shit to that thing

RalanrJan 19, 20171 votes

The double HP bar always feels very squishy when I play him because I feel way too vulnerable off of my mount. He's also not immune when Skaarl comes back, he often dies in the middle of the animation.

dominusxJan 19, 20171 votes

thank god he actually dies .

Malicious MetalJan 19, 20173 votes

He's extremely single target focused though and once he remounts he's easily killed off. He's just a tad weird but I love quirky champs.

AhristocatsJan 19, 20172 votes

Ivern design is so fucking great, the friend of juggernauts helping them with bush+shield that has AOE slow+dash on Q

what isn't nice is ivern being as tanky as rammus+no counterplay invade+ a lee sin level of map pressure what a fuck

and why is his Q snaring? what the actual hell, one Q=one death in late game

PhantomGGJan 19, 20171 votes

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ivern is a horrible design. just like kled dunno why they ever made it out of the sketch book. camile is nice but overtuned as fuck.

im guessing by over tuned you mean has mathmatically to big of numbers and will be fine once they are lowered?

dominusxJan 19, 20171 votes

Exactly. Her stun needs to be nerfed. also the radius that it actually stuns you aswell. Her true dmg on Q could tae a beating aswell. Her ult is simply toxic cant see a way of balancing it.

ForFoxSakesJan 19, 20172 votes

Even after they responded to the Darius nerf it still doest make sense as to why his Q inner was nerfed. "We feel he's strong and a lane bully" so lets nerf him in a place that has nothing to do with bullying but rather improper usage

AhristocatsJan 19, 20173 votes

his Q nerf rewards you for dodging the blade, and as a darius player the inner Q still does a lot of damage if you're under noxian might

his passive nerf is straight up bullshit, nothing else to add, i just hope it won't destroy darius because right now in high elo it's already hard to pull him against riven or fiora

dominusxJan 19, 20172 votes

i think we might have to go with fervor more now. to negate a part of the passive nerf but we gonna lose out in late game...

AhristocatsJan 19, 20171 votes

doesn't change anything, i go fervor already and winning against riven/fiora/gp/so many top laner is already hard (basically anyone but poppy and yasuo) so going fervor isn't fixing the issue

this nerf is just a nerf for bronze-diam5 player, darius is nowhere broken in high elo

i always had a problem with league balance because it never took in account high elo, this is our karma we have to be trash at the game to get a good balance

dominusxJan 19, 20171 votes

not like this item 3033 makes darius completely useless unless he gets to ult a low hp target to get noxian might instantly.

ForFoxSakesJan 19, 20172 votes

Not having darius heal from dodging it is already a MAJOR reward because that's a huge way to win trades or to kill him. Also not receiving a stack of bleed is another reward to take less damage and he needs longer to ramp up. Another third reward just because is excessive

ForgiveColourJan 19, 20172 votes

Im so happy to see non mages picked in the mid lane with 10 bans ^^

AhristocatsJan 19, 20171 votes

XD i also forgot this, mages are weak not a lot of ap riot please zed shouldn't be buffed

RexSaurJan 19, 20171 votes

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Im so happy to see non mages picked in the mid lanenwith 10 bans ^^

Mages have already taken over bot lane, mage carry + mage support > traditional adc + support, more and more ppl are starting to spam lanes like ziggs zyra, insert any mage here + malz, etc.

hunterspecJan 19, 20171 votes

nothing wrong with nerfing cancer I mean yasuo

AhristocatsJan 19, 20171 votes

but letting champs breaking harder the game is fine, darius+yasuo nerf for 1 month

overall 6 or 8 champs changed, and no camille/jayce/riven/fiora nerf despite being top tier top lane. COTC nerfed because of divers+ poppy who isn't even imbalanced after her nerfs (looking at win rate)

balance department is totally fine

RexSaurJan 19, 20171 votes

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but letting champs breaking harder the game is fine, darius+yasuo nerf for 1 month

overall 6 or 8 champs changed, and no camille/jayce/riven/fiora nerf despite being top tier top lane. COTC nerfed because of divers+ poppy who isn't even imbalanced after her nerfs (looking at win rate)

balance department is totally fine

"riven nerf"

lol, yeah lets nerf champs that actually take skill to play and build damage so the only top laners are maokai vs poppy lanes, im sure you love those matchups.

hunterspecJan 19, 20171 votes

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but letting champs breaking harder the game is fine, darius+yasuo nerf for 1 month

overall 6 or 8 champs changed, and no camille/jayce/riven/fiora nerf despite being top tier top lane. COTC nerfed because of divers+ poppy who isn't even imbalanced after her nerfs (looking at win rate)

balance department is totally fine

cam got nerfed, but I can see she needs more, jayce needs them definitely, riven I can see that, I don't see why fiora does. kennen needs more tbh