Even if Fizz isn't on the big assassin 4..

Lady Hammerlock··1 votes·274 views

I get that his troll pole is pretty iconic and needs to be a part of his kit but..

Can the passive of his W PLEASE be changed,Tank fizz isn't really running about anymore(infact its out of the picture practically) but changing it removes ANY possibility of a tank fizz becoming very dominant

and + it can be pretty annoying to trade against that passive early on(as a melee pretty easy to stop as a ranged champion)

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BloodyTompon1 votes

Passive of W? The entirety of W is the weakest (design wise) part of his kit. First thing I'd axe (probably followed by his passive)

Warpes1 votes

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Passive of W? The entirety of W is the weakest (design wise) part of his kit. First thing I'd axe (probably followed by his passive)

Were you living in a cave when tank fizz was running rampant or what?

BloodyTompon1 votes

Weakest design wise, not balance wise. Subtle difference. It's not only the passive, but also the active component of w that is terrible (again, not necessarily from a balance perspective). I'm suggesting the ability in its entirety be be remade.

Avienal1 votes

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I get that his troll pole is pretty iconic and needs to be a part of his kit but..

Can the passive of his W PLEASE be changed,Tank fizz isn't really running about anymore(infact its out of the picture practically) but changing it removes ANY possibility of a tank fizz becoming very dominant

and + it can be pretty annoying to trade against that passive early on(as a melee pretty easy to stop as a ranged champion)

He can still be part of the minor reworks really. His W isn't really as ridiculous as some other champions since its mostly his ability to run around and using his fixed Q to gap close and that same fixed distance to gain 'ground', his E 'troll pole' lets him get those useful escapes and it lets him play more of a burn champion then directly erase you by the typical unload combo. Sadly just like 'typical assassins', he will gladly prey on early ganks to rush items like Lich bane to snowball hard thanks to things such as his Q applying on hit effects(which last i checked, i would assume the proc of spells blades is when an ability is used, so technically he gets the empowered bonus right off the Q immediately).

i will admit to what bloodytompon said that his passive could need some axe'ing since it lets him take advantage of minion collision and the free 'small scale'able' doran's shield auto block lets him, just like a yasuo, have some damage mitigation to let him trade better against champions and being hit by minions. I wouldn't mind really if they tune the ability to only work on champion damage and maybe a few measures to make the minion collision not as effective(well be silly to just plain have him unable to go thru enemy minions, but he can walk thru his own minions).

His W is also the same gag as alot of particular older champions like Kayle whose E grants bonus damage on autos alongside AP scaling, Teemo gets on hit bonus damage on top of the burn for his own E, Twisted fate has it in the form of after X autos, dish out a enhanced attack and probably a few others could be listed. I would really like to see it a bit more unique such as removing the active damage and maybe something along the lines of placing the slow of his E onto the W instead for the active, making it more of a important utility, but can result in decisions on whether to kill your AP damage bonus on autos for a bit or let a target get away because you didnt want to have your W active add slow to your autos and on hit effects for a few seconds.

Of course, he would also need to lose the damage over time gag, but could keep the extra damage on autos and on hit effects with the AP scaling, meaning he is forced more into situations of actively fighting, then actively trolling.

Just like how they reworked Poppy and Ryze, what i would want to see them is to make champions have that useful utility play that screams they are good, not just some ridiculous rotten cheese that can mow down unawares like they are nothing, especially like a Reaper from Overwatch does by just teleporting right on top of a enemy team and then use his own ultimate in the game to just literally bullet spray the entire enemy team to death.

Paroe1 votes

Fizz's pole is one of the most broken abilities in the game though. Its a kayle ult on a 5 second CD... i get it being a mobility spell, and making him immune to CC during it would be a great change, but the invuln NEEDS to go.

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