What makes Camille strong?

Radiant Wukong··1 votes·1,001 views

The fact that she is the only champion with a kit that contains: true damage, a stun, a 20% shield, a movement speed buff, max health physical damage that heals her for the amount, mobility, a slow and an ultimate that forces you to duel her?

She isn't broken and doesn't need to be destroyed by the nerf hammer, but her numbers could use tweaking.

I think the primary way to bring her power in check is simply by making her Q an ability like Fiora Olaf. The problem isn't the damage by itself, it's the fact that it counts as a basic attack and item 3078's spellblade. With the way it is now, at level 18 with only a item 3078, she has 145 attack damage. Her second Q cast makes that 290 which, since it's a basic attack, it'll proc the sheen making it 580 true damage on a 3.5 second cooldown.

Almost all Camille builds contain a item 3074 hydra, making it 880 true damage. That's more than Chogath ult on her Q. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

In order for Fiora to do that damage, she'd need a build of item 3072 item 3074 item 3812 item 3031 item 3072 item 3072 and the champion she's attacking would need to have 4500 health.

With one more offensive item in Camille build, it will outdamage Darius ult and Garen ult against low health villain. Long story short.

Until RIOT fixes that, your best bet against Camille is CC and and your own shielding. My favorite champ to use against her is Shen . These also work LeeSin Alistar Jax Ekko Sion Riven Pantheon Riven Irelia Diana Ryze Fiddlesticks Morgana Nasus Nautilus Poppy

Fizz Darius Illaoi Akali Annie Katarina Elise Gangplank Jayce Nasus Volibear also work

4 Comments

O Fallen Scholar2 votes

The fact that she's the best diver in this game.

Doctor Jarvis2 votes

Im gonna want to see your math on those numbers because here's what I got - 145 + 2nd cast of Q (80% total AD)= 261 + Trinity proc (290)=551 + 80% Ravenous Hydra AD (60)=611 true damage. Which is still a lot but falls short of your math by more than 250.

I think you think second cast Q doubles AD and that the Trinity Force proc scales on Total AD.

EDIT just realized the math is easier understood another way, and that I was wrong. 120 (base) + 25 (Trinity) = 145 - - This is her total AD with just trinity 145 x 1.8= 261 - - this is the bonus damage without Trinity proc 120 (base) x 2 = 240 - - this is trinity's bonus damage 240+261= 501 - trinity+Q

120 (base) + 25 (Trinity) + 75 (Hydra) = 220 - - Total AD with Hydra 220 x 1.8=396 - - Bonus without trinity proc 120 (base) x 2 = 240 - - Trinity proc damage 240+396 = 536 true damage with trinity force and ravenous hydra.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

I made this post in about 3 minutes. I went back and looked, realized her Q scaling is +80% of her total AD with 100% being converted into true damage and item 3078 gives 200% base attack damage. I should have reviewed before I posted and honestly I'm too lazy to go edit even if I did catch it, so thank you. Take this upvote, sir.

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Big Lincoln2 votes

IMO her true damage should only be on the bonus damage of her Q2. Having it apply to Sheen and all on-hits like that is absurd. Even the base damaging becoming true is iffy; she already has very high DPS, I don't think she needs such absurd burst.

Also that her E's hitbox is too forgiving; I have had more than one occasion where she misses a fair margin and I'm still stunned.

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