How to Counter Poppy?

Stephenizgod··2 votes·1,332 views

First I want to say that this is not a complaint thread! I can't stress this enough, I am not complaining about how OP she is, I am merely asking for advice on how to deal with her other than banning her. What items to build, what champions to play, what playstyle should i be adopting against her?.

Ok so in order to ask for advice I think I should explain my experience and hopefully you guys can tell me where i went wrong :)

I was Volibear Top against Poppy, I didn't expect to win but I also didn't expect to lose, so I was very surprised when I was absolutely dominated. Im not the best Voli player but I'd like to think im pretty decent. Basically at level 1 i couldn't farm when her Q was up, it did about 1/6 of my life on the first cast, i was pretty good at dodging the second part. At level 3 i couldn't even be near the minions without taking half my life. She would hit me with her Passive, get the shield and then all in me with the shield. So after a few times of this i tried to stop her from getting the shield but she would just Q the shield before i got to it and id take 1/6th of my life and need to back away. I admit I messed up when i bought Bami's instead of armor but still she was absolutely crushing me even with my Passive. All game her Q would hit me for a huge chunk of my life even without the second part, she didn't even hit me with her E all that often, she probably pinned me maybe once or twice. I built Sunfire and Deadmans but its like I might as well had built nothing she tore through me so fast. Nothing we could do about her at this point, bot fed their lane way hard and I fed her so it was a lost game.

Any advice on what i can do against her? Not necessarily as Volibear, although any advice in using him against her would also be appreciated. Is it just me or is her Q's damage ridiculous? Am I just suppose to ban her?

Here is the game in question btw: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2099982169/206176227?tab=overview

If you look at where I died, its mostly behind my turret from her just straight diving me.

Thank you in advance for any help.

EDIT: After looking over her kit and running the numbers, I am assuming her Q's insane damage was actually due to me stacking HP in my runes on Volibear on top of Doran's Shield.

I also read the Poppy Champion Spotlight and it says Ekko is a counter to her? Is that true and should i be learning Ekko so I don't have to ban her haha. I also read that Olaf is a hard counter? I think i will try learning him a bit.

10 Comments

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

i feel like volibear should have an advantage over poppy. but then again poppy surprisingly has some outplay potential unlike most tanks. usage of shield. her Q slow and her stun. and ult. in lane you don't want to get poked by her when she has the shield. she wants to come at you when she has the shield up so dont attack her just back because she is absorbing all of that.

Stephenizgod1 votes

So you are saying i should let her use the shield on a minion wait for it to dissipate then go in on her? Is there an indicator for her Passive? I didn't really think about forcing her to use it on a minion instead of me. Im not sure how long it lasts.

What about her Q's damage though, how do I build against that? Armor didn't seem to do the trick and if i remember correctly it does damage based on your Max HP.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

her shield is an auto attack . and she has to cs. so just back when she has it up. and she will have to use it. also dont attack her when her shield is acquired. she will just not take damage to her health. armor works against her q. anyway all you need is armor and health as volibear. she actually needs to build damage to do some damage.

its based on max hp but its only a part of the total damage and its physical so armor works really well against it.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Ok thank you for the help I will try out what you said next time :)

Phenyxs1 votes

Voli if built right is a tank. But it could likely be a bad match up due to poppy is faster. This makes her have better cc. Try going range champ like ap. I personally would use Victor. He has good poke and range and when I run him top most tanks leave top lane in 10 min looking for some feed. Makes me Lol. Try that. Gl.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Why am I getting Downvoted? All im asking for is some advice, is that not one of the purposes of these Boards?

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

you will get downvoted for no reason here. they do this in every video game forum/ or anime.

Phenyxs1 votes

Wrong.

Phenyxs1 votes

She isn't worth a ban nor do I think she is op. She is strong if fed like most champs. A good player will expose her strong suits. I have faced her being a bully and best way Is out smart her, control her cs and if she is a trouble then ping for help. Keep her shut down. I rarely run into this issue. Gl

Stephenizgod1 votes

I think my issue came from her Passive and her Q's damage, she would poke me with her Passive and Shield and it was doing huge chunks of damage even when he only had a bami's. I felt like i couldn't do anything because with 1 AA and 1 Q she could far out damage me, but I think next time I will start with Armor instead of Doran's Shield. I'm also going to try someone with more damage than Volibear, someone who can reliably damage her without getting in range of her Q's enormous damage.

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