Clarification on why I hate manaless champs...

Radiant Wukong··6 votes·723 views

They all have God tier disengages, so when they're running from you, they have an infinite resource to escape. For the champions that only slow their enemy, true, you can dodge that skill shot, but juking left/right still allows them to create distance while running from you. The point of this post is simply saying, it'd be 10x easier to kill them champs if they had a mana resource for the sole purpose of not being able to escape effortless after you have them near death. The most infamouse example of this is Riven broken wings and dash. If you've ever tried to chase a Riven... you're stupid! You have a better chance at catching Singed .

Aatrox = slow, jump DrMundo = slow Vladimir = untargetable, speed boost Akali = slow, speed boost Kennen = speed boost, stun LeeSin = extreme mobility using wards/allies and jungle monsters, slow Zed = shadows Nidalee cougar = worse than Riven with the whole hop away thing Garen = speed boost Katarina = speed boost, blinking away even faster than Lee Sin LeeSin Kled = self knockback, skarl, hop foward RekSai = movement speed boost and dash Renekton = dash, can use jungle monsters to double dash (can go over walls) Riven = broken wings and dash Shyvana = ridiculous speed boost Tryndamere = long range dash Rumble = slow

Absolutely 0 thought or effort involved at all to use these abilities to RUN AWAY! In combat, it does take good execution (or they wouldn't have to run away in the 1st place) but when they get ready to run, it's pointless to try to secure the kill without summoner 3 summoner 14 summoner 4 summoner 6 summoner 31 summoner 32

My problems with these champs aren't laning phase or teamfights, it's that their kits give them too much CC/mobility which they normally have a a minimal 30% CDR and no resource. If you get their health too low, all these champs (except Akali) have amazing wave clear and can farm under their turret effortless then recall after clearing a few waves.

I've never had a problem with Kassadin Ahri Leblanc because they have mana, once they run out of mana... RIP! Or they have to recall and return to lane when they have more mana, giving you free farm.

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Teridax686 votes

Several of these champions, namely Akali, Garen, Katarina and Kled, are notorious for their poor disengage, and have trouble getting out of fights they've entered. You simply ran through League's entire list of champions, pasted every manaless champion with mobility, and called it a day. Considering how most manaless champions are melee, and how most melee champions require mobility to function, it's not difficult to compile a large list of mobile, manaless champions, as you did here. As such, this list also fails to acknowledge that most of these champions need to use their mobility to enter fights and thereby make an impact, and only few of them have the ability to enter and exit combat on demand. Granted, several of these champions have had the health of their mobility called into question, namely Lee Sin, Zed and Riven, but citing champions like Aatrox, Garen or Kled (who has a speed of 280, the lowest in the game, while unmounted, by the way) as examples of excessive disengage is stretching it a fair bit.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

You think mundo's disengage is good? A single target slow on a dodgeable skillshot? What?

Aatrox's Q is so telegraphed that you could dodge an FlashQ from aatrox with 200 pings.

And Garen's disengage is pure ass if you have any form of mobility+cc.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

Clearly you didn't read the post.

"For the champions that only slow their enemy, true, you can dodge that skill shot, but juking left/right still allows them to create distance while running from you."

Furthermore, Sadism give Mundo a 15%/25%/35% movement speed boost on top of the 40% 2nd slow he gives you for landing 1 Q. Even if you do catch him, let's say you're using LeeSin and land a Q of your own, even in early game 40% of 2500 is 1000 health, divide that by 12 and get 83 health per second.

So yeah... good luck catching and securing a kill against the bad disengage DrMundo.

Read the post in it's entirety before you comment. Being an ignorant person who skims over, looking for keywords makes you look stupid. I'm fairly confident you didn't do well in school, but good day to you, sir.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

Yeah and Mundo has no mobility so you can cc him.

40% ms doesn't do shit when stuff like lee sin or khazix exists.

I've read your post. It's full of vitriol and over exageration of many situations.

I'm not doing well in school? Cause ehm, I haven't agreed with your post? Nice meme.

Mordepool2 votes

"ALL have god tier disengages". Conveniently forgets to mention Mordekaiser in your post. Hmmmmmmm. Something smells fishy

TequilaZombie1 votes

Mentions KLED. The one champion who CAN'T run away when low on health.

bbQsauçe1 votes

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Radiant Wukong1 votes

I love Shen, he's one of my mains, he shant be disrespected, he's a very healthy champ, he could actually use a few buffs imo.

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