Why do some ADC’s get to have overloaded kits with no trade offs?

NY64·1/12/2020, 4:02:51 PM·3 votes·738 views

I feel like there are some ADC’s that get to have more utility and better version abilities of other ADC’s with less utility. They have too many strengths with few to no weaknesses. If an ADC is going to have a lot of utility, they should be a jack of all trades, master of none. Not be a jack of trades and be better than an ADC that excels at doing one thing.

Kalista: The fact she’s gets a dash every time she auto attacks, an ability that can have infinite stacks that also slows (E), and an ability that gives a tanky teammate free engage or disengage without using any of their abilities is just ridiculous. Compared to Twitch who’s kit is mostly about getting 6 stacks before pressing E, the most he can get is 6 stacks and his ability doesn’t slow or can be used to beat smite when competing for epic monsters. Yes he has his W to slow and his Q to close the gap but both of those can only be used once per fight while kalista can close the gap every time she auto attacks!

Kai Sa: Why does she get to have the ability to build ad and ap items? Wasn’t that supposed to be what made Corki unique? Plus she can use her long range W to not only deal massive damage (if building lots of ap) but she can also use it with her R as a massive gap closer to finish off, on top of having a shield when she dashes to make sure you can’t win the fight. Jhin has a similar ability and is supposed known as the super long range marksman but his trade off is lacking sustained damage, mobility, and terrible attack speed. Meanwhile Kai Sa gets to also have that super long range while also using it as a gap closer with no trade offs!

Aphelios: At least for him you can’t always choose the exact weapon you want at the exact moment but his multiple guns allow him to have just too much. However, it seems like he just gets too much from each of his weapons, his AOE weapon is basically like Graves but he has to give up so much range and blockable basic attacks to have that power. He has a sniper that can be used with another gun to attack you from anywhere on the map while other super long range champions have a range limit and have to at least aim those abilities. Plus he can have Heimer turrets that combine with his off-hand weapon allowing him to use to purpose of one of his guns from a super safe distance that also act as a wall that makes it too risky to past them and attack Aphelios. He gets a gun that allows him to slow every auto attack like Ashe but she loses out on crit damage and raw damage in exchange of being a more support like marksman. Seriously what is his big weakness other than having no mobility, because that is something almost every ADC has but with far less utility. Aphelios just has the same weaknesses as them while also being just as powerful as the original users where they are supposed to excel at.

4 Comments

Umbra Z1/12/2020, 6:03:53 PM3 votes

I feel like Caitlyn is too safe to deal the damage she does, high range, self peel, zoning with traps what’s her trade off?

Hotarµ1/12/2020, 4:09:34 PM1 votes

Kalista: (cont.)

Well, Kalista's "trade off" is that she's one of the worst ADCs in the game, she has to be kept down in the gutters because the slightest bit of strength makes her a dominant pick.

Compared to Twitch who’s kit is mostly about getting 6 stacks before pressing E, the most he can get is 6 stacks and his ability doesn’t slow or can be used to beat smite when competing for epic monsters. Yes he has his W to slow and his Q to close the gap but both of those can only be used once per fight while kalista can close the gap every time she auto attacks!

Well, one Q per teamfight is pretty much all Twitch needs. If he gets a few items and gets a good ult off, he nukes entire teams better than any other ADC can. He's in a little bit of a weaker spot right now but there have been plenty of times when Twitch was a destructive pick, and he can still perform well if he gets a good lead.

Kai Sa / Aphelios:

Don't really have anything to say here, I agree that they're overloaded and/or overtuned.

IMO Kai'sa also single-handedly invalidated Corki's niche of the AD/AP marksman.

Posui Gart1/12/2020, 6:18:04 PM1 votes

Kalista's tradeoffs are low range and -10% AA damage. She is great at kiting immobile melees and dodging things in a combat, which is somewhat op in pro games that consist of tanks and mages, so she was nerfed a lot Kaisa is op Aphelios requires his enemies to adapt to his weapons. Still, he is worse at tank shredding than actual tank shredders(Vayne), worse in early skirmishes than actual skirmishers(Lucian), worse at longrange poke than actual longrange poke ADCs(Cait), worse at AOE than actual AOE ADCs(Jinx, Sivir). Only his Gravitum ult 5 man CC is something unmatched by other ADCs