Strongest Juggernaut in league of legends

Ahristocats·Aug 20, 2017·38 votes·3,950 views

might as well make the enemy team ff'ing once kog has those items

just saving time tbh

67 Comments

Big LincolnAug 20, 201737 votes

tbh rubick I'm sick of you trying to get my new main nerfed kogmaw is so fun and the best juggernaut design in the game you better watch your back EU scum I'm boarding the next flight to your country to bring some ranged bruiser superiority to your front door better sleep with one eye open cuz im coming for you

AhristocatsAug 20, 201714 votes

i'm sorry my lord

i just wanted balance

PennsAug 20, 201724 votes

sorry for what? our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our juggernauts. especially since theyre such good range and all

Big LincolnAug 20, 201711 votes

I get this joke

PennsAug 20, 201713 votes

it gets bigger when i press w hehe

AmazoXAug 20, 20171 votes

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it gets bigger when i press w hehe

Lmfao kms

PennsAug 20, 20174 votes

mMMmMMMm*

WrÆthAug 21, 20172 votes

But does it tear tha skin tho

HudnofskiBlehAug 21, 20174 votes

Balance? BALANCE?!?! BALANCE IS FOR THE WEAK!!!! Zed Syndra Kayn

341123545652Aug 21, 20173 votes

"TOGETHER ZED , WE WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE " - 1-10-2 Kayn "NONE ESCAPE THEIR SHADOW" - 4-9-1 Zed

.....

20-3-0 Tristana

InstaPoppyAug 20, 201723 votes

He's pretty much only strong when enchanters are strong and can boost his dps enough and also peel for him. He probably won't be seen as often when ardent takes a hit.

NyarlathοtepAug 20, 20174 votes

This. Needs. More. Upvotes.

Big LincolnAug 21, 20172 votes

kog is good whenever its a tank meta

SalsonAug 20, 20175 votes

So what is the deal with Kog anyway, I usually fail when analizyng botlane?

It's like his base steroids are high enough for him to allow tanky builds without sacrificing damage.

AhristocatsAug 20, 20179 votes

7% max hp damage on each AA 28% armor+28% magic resis shred on Q Q giving free attack speed for some reasons

SalsonAug 20, 20171 votes

So Rito failed to give us a healthy hybrid campion....again.

AhristocatsAug 20, 201711 votes

being hybrid isn't the problem of kog's design

it's how: -he doesn't have counterplay -his kit allows him to be a tanky 710 range champ

AirKingNeoAug 20, 20171 votes

Being a hybrid champion is a weakness since you lack any meaningful % pen items and thus fall off later into the game.

Like Jax..

GayFluffyUnicornAug 20, 20175 votes

What? Jax was THE hypercarry back in the days. THE carry you were always afraid when he got picked that he gets his 3/4 items because it means gg. Kog maw is NOT falling off at all nor does jax. Jax only gets stronger. Sure he isn't going to shred tanks or entire teams at once like twitch, trist and vayne and kog but overall he doesn't fall off and wins or should win every 1v1. Hybrid is not a weakness.

AirKingNeoAug 20, 20172 votes

Welcome to season 7 where Jax's linear scaling doesn't matter in the face of extreme multiplying scaling and % health damage. He's been demoted to a mid game champion.

Hybrid is a weakness. Tanks outscale you.

AninLegions777Aug 21, 20173 votes

Quote me on this. No tank outscales Jax. None.

z63XnLCMwXAug 21, 20171 votes

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Quote me on this. No tank outscales Jax. None.

Tanks no. Bruisers yes. Nasus But Jax isn't a tank so you got to compare him to someone of the same class.

AirKingNeoAug 21, 20171 votes

Really? Shen outscales Jax. Malphite outscales Jax. Poppy outscales Jax. Maokai outscales Jax. Almost every tank outscales Jax because tanks get Adaptive Helm and stack armor and Jax stops dealing damage to them while tanks hurt him with their base damage.

And tanks also auto win the early game against Jax with Bramble Vest.

But man, people on the boards dislike facts they don't agree with.

AninLegions777Aug 22, 20171 votes

Lool. Sure m8. Adaptive helm will surely decrease his dmg by A SHIT-TON AMIRITE?! Now sit back while I destroy you with my Triforce, rageblade and botrk.

AirKingNeoAug 22, 20171 votes

Jax doesn't build Rageblade, and stopped building Blade of the Ruined King.

Meanwhile Omen's attack speed slow dramatically reduces Jax's damage.

Btw, there's no evidence to support Rageblade is built on Jax. Just try me.

ArakadiaAug 21, 20172 votes

it's how: -he doesn't have counterplay -his kit allows him to be a tanky 710 range champ

I disagree.

Literally everything but Kog'Maw's auto's is dodgable. He's also supposed to be squishy and has been for the majority of his existance.

His kit doesn't allow him to be a tanky 710 range champion. Not exactly at least.

His kit allows him to SOMETIMES have 710 auto attack range at MAX RANK. The only time a Kog'Maw is tanky is when you post videos of a Janna and Ori shielding and healing him too. Or whatever the case is.

I'm not saying Kog'maw is okay, but these aren't the right reasons for why he is being unfair.

AhristocatsAug 21, 20172 votes

most of his power relies on his rightclicking tied to on hit effect with Q attack speed passive

stop pretending that kog will use his ult or his Q to deal damage

https://youtu.be/mfSYfElHxr0?t=304

here an example, deft only uses ult on targets that are 2000 range away, or on immobile targets like tf with ZHONYA he never uses Q only rightclicks

i repeat it again, STOP SHITPOSTING, this is exhausting

ArakadiaAug 21, 20171 votes

i repeat it again, STOP SHITPOSTING, this is exhausting

no u

Look your posting ONE example. There are plenty of examples where Kog did use all his spells or had to.

However thats not whats important. My point was that Kog'Maws design is not totally unfair. If his numbers were shifted and his damage required him to land more spells, he would be so much more fair.

My point was that current Kog is just using autos for damage, generally speaking, and that if you forced him to land spells more he would be way healthier.

deadlychuckAug 22, 20171 votes

Well idk if it's kog's design, as much as it's the design of the items which he can effectively utilize.

If he didn't have such premium access to defensive itemization which doesn't extensively cost him damage, then you wouldn't have an issue of him having no weaknesses. Riot's new itemization philosophy seems to be, give the champions all the things they don't have, as a premium passive effect on a finished item.

Which is probably why all of the champions started to feel so similar, all the items just started acting as handicaps so the champion require more and more niche counters.

AninLegions777Aug 21, 20171 votes

Jax is healthy

SalsonAug 21, 20171 votes

Honestly, I don't like how he has no access to penetration, and just overwhelmes people with damage. It makes him oneshot people with a slight lead.

I'd like for his 3rd empowered hit to shread 10% of armor and mr, stacking 3 times. Even if he would get nerfs in other parts of his kit to compensate.

AninLegions777Aug 21, 20171 votes

30% Armor and MR isn't a lot considering it'll take a while to stack.

MizayaAug 20, 20175 votes

What is that EU gameplay lul xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_dfcdvco3Q this is where it's at.

DorkunedAurasAug 20, 20175 votes

How exactly is he supposed to be a Juggernaut?

AhristocatsAug 20, 201713 votes

is tanky sustains with healing only move forward can kill everyone

seems like a juggernaut to me a marksman wouldn't facetank people

ArakadiaAug 21, 20173 votes

Thats not what defines a juggernaut.

AhristocatsAug 21, 20171 votes

yes it is

ArakadiaAug 21, 20171 votes

Aatrox is tanky, sustains with healing, (I don't even know what you mean by only move forward except maybe that they don't weave in and out of fights), but when he goes in he's supposed to go ham, and he can kill everyone.

Aatrox is a juggernaut.

Xin Zhao is tanky, sustains with healing, engages with poor disengage, and can kill everyone.

Xin Zhao is a juggernaut.

Graves is tanky, sustains with healing, just keeps engaging forward, and can kill everyone.

Is Graves a juggernaut?

Kled is also a juggernaut. He sustains with healing (and has some crazy healing built into his kit unlike Kog), is innately tanky (unlike Kog), just keeps going forward due to strong engage and stick but poor disengage, AND can kill everyone.

Oh! Master Yi is also a juggernaut if the defining features of a juggernaut is healing, going ham, killing everyone, and being tanky. Oh wait. Like Kog'Maw yi would have to build tanky items to be tanky. Well at least Yi will use Mallets slow better then Kog'maw.

My point is that Kog'Maw is not a juggernaut. He doesn't even have healing or tankyness as a part of his kit. And a bunch of Juggernauts don't even have in combat healing. Garen, Mordekaiser, Urgot. So they're not juggernauts either according to your definition of a juggernaut. I'm not going to count Garen' passive healing because its out of combat.

For someone who plays a lot of Juggernauts, relatively, and has been pretty condescending to those who say things like "Mordekaiser is a tank who does damage", I cannot believe your serious about your response.

TequilaZombieAug 21, 20171 votes

a marksman wouldn't facetank people

Welcome to season 7, mate!

GreatWhiteNorthAug 20, 20175 votes

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How exactly is he supposed to be a Juggernaut?

I don't know. These EUs like to exxagerate?

Sahn UzalAug 21, 20174 votes

If you're planning NA, OCE or whatever other region you can come up with doesn't exaggerate, you propably haven't spent too much time on the boards.

GreatWhiteNorthAug 21, 20171 votes

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If you're planning NA, OCE or whatever other region you can come up with doesn't exaggerate, you propably haven't spent too much time on the boards.

So you admitted to being full of it.

Sahn UzalAug 21, 20172 votes

Me? I'm not making a statement about myself. Are there people in Europe that exaggerate? Yes. Are there people in America that exaggerate? Yes. Are there people in litterally every other region that exaggerate? Yes.