And not a caster minion. I'd like to actually ban your actual balance mistakes instead of having to ban Ashe so my adc doesn't pick that garbage. So annoying having to play a 4v5 when she gets picked because she does absolutely nothing and gets jumped on by everyone with 0 hope for escape
General Matty10 votesWell Ashe is actually pretty alright, i would say your teammates are just trash at using her.
Trash MammaI2 votes[{quoted}](name=General Matty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Oe06A94a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-20T05:23:18.710+0000)
Well Ashe is actually pretty alright, i would say your teammates are just trash at using her.
No mobility, No MS boost, No reliable hard cc, no sustain, no burst, mediocre dps. I can go on for ages about her. She won't live if anybody jumps on her and unless she lands her ult she's not sticking to anyone. She's far too outclassed kit wise and needs to be reworked into something completely new to keep up with todays champions dashing and sprinting all over the place
General Matty1 votes[{quoted}](name=Trash MammaI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Oe06A94a,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-20T12:39:51.499+0000)
No mobility, No MS boost, No reliable hard cc, no sustain, no burst, mediocre dps. I can go on for ages about her. She won't live if anybody jumps on her and unless she lands her ult she's not sticking to anyone. She's far too outclassed kit wise and needs to be reworked into something completely new to keep up with todays champions dashing and sprinting all over the place
She has a good winrate so obviously something is working for her.
MiracleMorg941 votesNot every champ needs to be reworked into the crazy shitshow fiesta it is now. Ashe has a huge amount of CC in her ult that stuns for a decent amount of time and longer from a longer range, and has slows on her AA as well.
Not every ADC needs everything in the book. Ashe is fine in regards to her kit.
It's just your teammates not being able to use her to her full potential, not the champ itself. Use your ban on something that is actually worthy of a ban (like Yasuo, etc) instead of wasting it on her. You never know if you might get an actual Ashe god on your team if you keep banning her stupidly like this.
ReportsAreCancer7 votesIt's not that Ashe is bad, it's that the other ADCs are just way too good. Like you would need 3 Ashes to equal 1 Lucian in power.
xDogMeatx1 votesnow thats math
ZephyrDrake5 votesThis seems like a you issue rather than an "ashe is bad" issue
Metal Janna1 votesYou mean when you get picked because you were trying to poke? Try playing more carefully. Win condition with Ashe ADC is "Ashe never gets caught and dies". You getting caught and dying thwarts that. She needs you there to peel for her.
Ahri Baka1 votesAshe got buffed twice btw And they were big buffs
hrooza dota 1 votes52.07% win rate 5.97% use rate which is pretty healthy for a champion (closer to strong imo)
just because players in your bracket are trash on her does not mean the champion is trash