Hyper mobility assassins need hard nerfs to damage

Radiant Wukong··4 votes·1,517 views

It is absurdly hard to kill a smart Ahri Leblanc Evelynn Kassadin Zed if they get a lead in lane. These guys are literally diving 3+ enemy champs, killing a squishy and escaping with over 50% of their health. That has to stop.

I started playing this game in S2, that just wasn't possible.

Originally, this would have been the end of my post. But when I look back at season 2, the reason assassins couldn't get away with this wasn't because of the damage... it was because team compositions were different. It was very common to see tank supports, my personal favorites being Maokai (I miss his old ult) and Volibear , but prerework Sion (click stun and 100% true damage ult) as well Alistar Leona Blitzcrank Chogath Shen Nautilus Sejuani Galio Malphite JarvanIV. Volibear was so strong before every marksman starting getting hard CC and mobility that Skarner was being picked as support just to counter his engage.

These supports made it a freaking suicide mission to ambush their carries. An Ahri just hard carried in my last game (I'm playing on this account again so you can actually look lol) not because Ahri needs nerfs, but because our support is classified as a freaking assassin lol

10 Comments

TheWizardM3 votes

Okay, first things first, Evelynn is everything but hypermobile. I agree the amount of dashes in the game are ridiculous, and assassins don't really seem to have a downside to make up for the amount of dashes they have. The reason you don't see any real tank supports anymore is because tanking has become more and more useless since s5, since most assassins and mages can oneshot tanks just as easily nowadays (and even if they fail at that, they are pretty much guaranteed to survive afterwards with the amount of mobility they have).

Radiant Wukong1 votes

I'm always melting assassins with full tank Nautilus Sion JarvanIV Vi , literally don't ever have a single offensive item outside of item 3053 or item 3077

TheWizardM1 votes

Which is the reason Riot nerfed tank stats and buffed damage sources in the first place starting in the tank meta - tanks can dish out almost as much damage as non-tanks. It has gotten to the point though where tanking (as in intentionally soaking up damage so it doesn't hit other teammates) is useless.

HP Crookshanks3 votes

How are Ahri and Evelynn hyper mobile?

Radiant Wukong2 votes

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How are Ahri and Evelynn hyper mobile?

Ahri = dash and ms Eve = jump back and ms

2Charmnot2Charm2 votes

Hyper mobility assassins

Ahri Only mobility is linked to a 2 minute 10 seconds long ultimate cooldown (and drops down to 1:50 after 20% cdr which you won't have before the first ult usage)

Evelynn How is eve mobile at ALL?

Zed Most predictable assassin in the game please...

Kumiho Ahri1 votes

I prefer nerfing the damage that runes add + replacing the true dmg of conquerer and IE with something else. These seem like the most unhealthy points of the game to me.

OmegaNITRO1 votes

Well, when IE just gave crits 50% more damage instead people complained about the damage being too much on squishies, so here we are.

Kumiho Ahri1 votes

+50% dmg on crits arent that much worse for squishies then the true dmg now. It also would encourage adc to build one defensive item because defensive stats would matter again. I think we would have a shilft from the 'bursty' play-style back to 'dps sustain' play-style. Also Yasuo and Tryndamere are problematic with IE and conquerer. They might not be broken (I didnt check Win rates, ban rates, etc.) but everybody with some commen sense should be able to see that the amount of true dmg they can deal through regular AA is not really healthy for the game.

Noor Sakata1 votes

How is Ahri and Eve hyper mobile ? you're trolling right? as for Ahri , she doesn't need any damage nerfs , she is Single targe burst mage , her damage is already limited and fairly counter-able by MR or simply make her miss the charm and she can't do much until she gets her Ult not to forget she has high cool downs I get it , your main got gutted , but that doesn't mean you should ask for all other assassins to get nerfed

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