Yet she can't even 1v1 an ADC as is (and that's her INTENDED ROLE). Remind me why we're nerfing her so fucking hard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98U8S7DJVGA&feature=youtu.be
I won't even be able to play Camille next patch without feeling bad about it and feeling like I'm holding my team back.
dunder kill11 votesHow far behind were you that you're actually a level under their ADC?
Sciela post strikes again
Truly Prideful7 votesYou would have killed her had you not stopped to run away.
Niyumi1 votesShe had Warlord's, and healed for more than I could do. Even if I stayed, she would have just sustained better than any champion in the history of this game and won.
Divine Winds4 votesIf she healed for more than you could do, she'd be full health right now.
Stop blaming the balance, blame your own decision making
Divine Winds7 votesYou know she would have died if you autoed her once right? but instead you decided to pussy away and bust your flash even though she autoed. You could've won that fight but because of bad decision making, you lost. Camille is a bruiser. She trades some damage for tankiness. ADC's are full ad. They trade health for damage. that's why they do damage, and is also why they can crit 50 million times. It's because they have no sustain in terms of health and armor/mr.
Niyumi1 votesbecause they have no sustain
HAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Take a look at that Cait's health with JUST WARLORD'S and tell me they have no sustain.
And, Camille is intended to be a diver, and they want you to build full fucking damage as they nerf her health and base damage. So, when I build full damage and can't do my intended job, then what good is the champ?
Divine Winds3 votesDid you even read the post? They have no sustain in terms of resistances. Divers don't go full damage. Do you understand what diving means? To jump someone under their turret. Divers need to be tanky to withstand that turret damage and deal more damage than average tanks. Divers are champs such as Fiora.
dunder kill3 votesNo sustain? She had a 
lol
Divine Winds1 votesShe had no resistances. That's what I meant by sustain
Automated Riven3 votesresistances are never and should never be referred to as sustain. it isn't
Divine Winds1 votes"Sustainability is the capacity to endure."
A full tank with resistances can survive for as long as a lifesteal adc in lane.
Automated Riven2 votessustain by definition is to make stronger. if something is going to sustain you it will support you or give you strength. in this game that equates to health regen or something which replentishes your health. you dont buy cloth armor by itself to allow you sustain in lane. you buy health potions and reguv beads.
yes resistances help your sustain to be more effective but they dont help you sustain.
Mecha MaIphite3 votesYou couldn't do your intended job because you fucked up.
MistroTTC1 votesOr if kennen had came and helped her and done any amount of damage, which could of been easily done if she telegraphed the plan by pinging Caitlyn.
Divine Winds1 votesthey were cut off by cait traps and woulda taken too long to come
MistroTTC1 votesYeah but if they started moving earlier he could of gotten in range to attack.
Divine Winds1 votesbut bm laughing in base > actually playing game LUL
MistroTTC1 votesYeah but that doesn't change the fact that it was still possible to get caitlyn.
Divine Winds1 votesI think by the time they came around, she was still dead... If you see in the clip I think kennen comes around just as cam died
MistroTTC1 votesYeah, but if she didn't go in that early they could of gotten there sooner.
Divine Winds1 votesBut this camille has obvious bad decision making
MistroTTC1 votesYeah thats the point of my post.
Shahamut5 votes1: Cait is a level ahead of you in this game.
2: Other posts share that the Cait is 5/1 and you are 1/4... if that is true, Im willing to bet she is at least 1 full item ahead of you as well.
3: You also don't show your item builds, but Im going to guess it was probably sub par.
4: You probably could have won if you had just stayed and auto'd. (someone else in this thread thinks so too.)
5: You didn't dodge anything with your ult. Its a small thing, and hard to do vs a pure AA like Cait, but its possible. Something to think about.
6: You need to max E first on Camile, not Q or W. reasons are as follows: -a) Better base damage scaling (45 base dmg per rank) -b) Greater attack speed boost means higher DPS after the stun (which you landed, good job!) -c) Lower cooldown on your main source of mobility and your only source of cc outside of your ultimate.
Summary of point 6: Better initial damage as you go in, greater dps afterwards, lower cooldown on your cc. If it had been maxed instead of your W, you would have won that easy. Even though you were behind. You might have (if needed) been able to use your CC again that fight depending on how much cooldown you were running. :/
Not sure what the nerfs are yet, but that fight being lost is 100% on you my friend. Hope that I was able to help you in some respect. :)
Shahamut1 votesJust looked up the current nerfs on the PBE:
Precision Protocol (Q) bonus damage on second hit lowered to 70% from 100%
(Thoughts:) Honestly, this isn't as big of a nerf as it sounds, since she still converts a crap ton of it to true damage. It was in my opinion, dealing a bit too much dmg because of that, this should be fine. (Don't start on Fiora talk... thats a whole other bag of worms)
Tactical Sweep (W) Slow lowered to 60/65/70/75/80% from 90%
(Thoughts:) This will probably not be felt all too much really, I mean, yeah its a huge nerf to the slow especially since this is usually maxed last, but you have so much mobility in your kit, that you probably wont feel this nerf. much.
Hookshot (E) : Mana cost increased to 70 from 50 Stun duration lowered to 0.75 from 1 second. [Now gets attack speed on enemy champion hit]**
(Thoughts:) The mana cost increase will stink early, but after sheen will be less felt. Less "spam E" escapes in the early game is probably a good thing. Stun duration lowered by .25 seconds? That one might actually hurt, depending on the target. But only in the retaliation sense. She has her ult to make sure people can't escape, and with E max you can still chase forEVER. It might hurt her dueling though. The change for the attack speed buff? A good Camille generally doesn't take a fight she missed the stun on anyway unless she is ahead or just pot-committed. This change makes sense to me.
Overall, its going to be a significant nerf, but nothing that I would call gutting. :/
BeatzBoyFTW5 votes57% winrate with 70+% banrate at Diamond. Technically, the nerfing was worth it, and no one cares about your "1 in a million" video. And you shouldn't get so cocky like that in the first place.
Quepha4 votesAn adc has to go 5/1 while the Camille has to go 1/4 for that to happen.
I love how you omitted those details.
nm10104 votesI had a few words with you on Camille balance a few weeks back, I will now give you the customary 'I was right' and you are delusional if you think this resembles anything close to a fair comparison. Then again you are the guy that said he could lane versus faker, go even, or even possibly win since you beat challengers all the time.
DoktorKaiser2 votesIs this a joke? She is utterly broken and unfair to play against, if you cant utilize her better delete the game honestly... Its better that they destroy her for now and wait for a small rework or something, which is pathetic on their part because she just got released, but if they couldnt predict that such a terrible design would break the game on all levels then somebody needs to get fired.
SaltyKracka2 votesI mean, maybe more people would agree with you if you weren't sporting an 81 IQ?
Also, if you weren't shit.
KVbqbFsC8e1 votesIs this some sort of joke?
Niyumi1 votesThe joke is that ADCs are weak right now.
Divine Winds6 votesADCs being weak is literally just a joke. They aren't weak. They are weak compared to some stronger picks. In fact, Camille should be able to 1v1 an ADC easily. If they both were equal in gold, Camille should win. You just played badly.
Handy Sandy 1 votesThe joke is that ADCs are weak right now.
Are you denying the damage in that video?
Quepha1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chroma Spell,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OYzRUNKL,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-01-27T00:44:12.519+0000)
Are you denying the damage in that video?
Caitlyn was insanely fed in that game. There's a point where even Urgot gets fed hard enough to carry a game.
Penns1 votes5/5 crits, thats why I dont like adcs feelsbadman
Divine Winds1 votesWAIIIITTTTT so camille's role is 1v1ing adcs???
This changes everything
Why don't people play her bot if that's the only job she does?
LUL
Jefftiffy1 votesCamille falls off late game where ADCs excel. There's a problem? I don't think so. The problem is she has way too easy of a time early game and literally she becomes a god in mid game because of it.
Niyumi1 votesThis clip WAS mid game. Like 23 minutes in.
And Camille has an awful mid game, I donno what you're on.
DarkRitual1 votesHer PBE buffs are very aggressive right now. It's a few days into PBE cycle. Riot has even stated they are likely to trim her nerfs down once they see how bad that changelist is.
Could you possibly overreact more?
Genocide Victim1 votesCamille is not broken honestly.
sobi9991 votesadc's are the strongest class in the game lategame. They are meant to be beast in late game and when fed. Some exceptions are some top laners i.e. fiora, yasuo etc. That cait might have been fed and i do believe u could have killed her had you not ran. Still cami should be way stronger than an adc early-mid game so maybe we need more details.