Inb4, there was a pbe note that stated Veigars Q would get 50 range increased, but they changed their minds and scrapped it for 2 more ap on takedowns.
I was actually quite pumped, sucks having to move forward to be able to Q at the same max range of W.
This extra AP on takedowns is quite lame to say the least.
Guess its better than nothing, but still my hopes were up...
dominusx2 votesno fk that his counter is outranging him if we remove his weakness might aswell make his ulti oneshot everyone on the map instantly on cast how about that? or make ekko's W shoot supernovas globally cuz it's weak after the nerf
dominusx1 votesI'm sorry next time a Veigar hover's his mouse over me and kills me through 150 mr imma tell him what a great player he is.
Astôlfo4 votesFeel free to tell me how much AP he had versus how much maximum health you have versus how much you had when he ulted you instead of just whining.
dominusx1 votesi'm not gonna bother going back to last week for it. Veigar is aids simple at least his range is manageable and i'm happy with it.Anything low range his beats it after 6.
Astôlfo2 voteslolno not even close.
Even at 1000 AP and a Rank 3 ultimate, his ultimate only does 1025 damage before MR and MR pen if his enemy target has full health. No one in the game has that low max health that late in.
If you have low health and got ulted and executed, that's your fault for not respecting that and getting like a Banshee's or just staying out of his range in the first place while your team CCs him or the like first.
If you got caught by his stun and got executed, that's your fault for first of all, getting caught in such an easy-to-dodge stun, and two, not investing in a QSS.
If you managed to die because you got hit by his Q and/or W without his cage and then got ulted, you're just bad at the game and need to learn to dodge.
dominusx1 votesi remember exactly how it happened cuz i remember beeing mad over it for the rest of the night i was kha had 2-3 mr items and mr runes items where prolly 
(188 roughly) so i qss'ed ashe arrow oneshoted her then veigar hit Q R on me as i was jumping out and got instakilled. ashe arrow cant have dealt more than 300dmg at the time and i didnt get auto'ed by her cuz i flashed on top of her W Q aa(passive) and oneshot her cause i was flanking and my team was beeing a diversion up front veigar ofc died afterwards so i'm not gonna say he is an unkillabe beast i just hate the thing that he just hovers his mouse over you and nukes you with an ability that isnt a fuckin skillshot i was always biased by abilities that nuke people that are not a skillshot. you can say kha does the same with Q but not if the enemy has an iq above 50 and stays near someone or at least near minnions and the main reason i got pissed over this was because he didnt have his void completed yet he was sitting on the blasting wand for it and didnt finish it b4 the game ended.
Astôlfo2 votesWell let's see.
You still lost health from Ashe's arrow. You're playing an incredibly squishy assassin. Kha'Zix would have around 2100 health at that point (assuming you were around level 16 given you have 3 full items). Ashe arrow would take you down to about 1800 (about 85% maximum health for you). You had around 195 MR, which is a .338x multiplier roughly.
But then you got hit by Veigar's Q, which was probably rank 5 by then. Judging by your items, Veigar probably had Morello's + maybe Rabadon's (or if he didn't go Rabadon's, then Abyssal or whatever). Which is a good bit of AP. And then his stacking from laning phase. That would've hurt a lot.
So that takes your health even lower, increasing the damage from missing health scaling. Then Veigar ults you in the face.
I looked through your OP.GG but I didn't find a single game as you as Kha against an enemy Veigar in months??
dominusx1 votesthis account is permabanned i only use it for forums . lets just agree that veigar is fine only problem imo is that you cantdodge his ulti the rest of his kit is higly outplayable but his ult remains cancer i'm fine as long as he is underplayed buff him and zoom back in the meta oneshoting people who go near him i gotta run some errands now cya around
Astôlfo1 votesHis ulti's not that strong till late game outside of people making mistakes around Veigar, because Veigar is designed to be late-game. It's also to give him a counter to the hyper-mobile meta, because he can't just kill a squishy target with his ult alone unless they're low health. But those champions are mobile enough to easily dodge the rest of his abilities, until the Veigar player learns and gets good enough at Veigar to use his cage properly and with good precision/timing/placement to land a stun to kill them. Or he can wait for his team to follow up and then finish them off.
Dolasaur1 votesBut you forgot! The whole point of Veigar rework is that people aren't happy buying Banshee's / QSS / Merc Treads. They don't want to have to actually build items in response to how the enemy is doing. Much more fun to just cookie cutter :)
(I love cookie cutters. On the last day before Veigar's mid-year mage rework, my R actually one-shot a 100% hp LeBlanc who had 30 MR and 600 AP. Crowning achievement of my career.)
Astôlfo1 votesYou forgot the "kappa" for those who aren't as good at picking up on sarcasm.
Bultz2 votesI would like it if he had no range, little op piece of shit
Astôlfo2 votesNot even close.
Bultz2 votesNot even close.
Huge fking nerfs. If he gets a small lead he snowballs and one hits people without even having a full build. On top of that his cc lasts long enough where he can kill you before your free. He is cancer and needs ultimate nerfs.
Astôlfo3 votesWhich is 100% their fault, not Veigar's. Also if they get caught by the stun, that's again, their fault. And his ult scales off missing health. It's an execute. And it's not going to execute anyone with a lot of health without a lot of AP.
Bultz1 votesWhich is 100% their fault, not Veigar's. Also if they get caught by the stun, that's again, their fault. And his ult scales off missing health. It's an execute. And it's not going to execute anyone with a lot of health without a lot of AP.
Hes broken af and he needs huge nerfs. him being broken isnt my fault and him needing nerfs is because he fking one hits people.
Astôlfo2 votesQuit crying. You being bad enough to be killed is your fault. He doesn't one-shot you unless you fuck up.
Bultz2 votesQuit crying. You being bad enough to be killed is your fault. He doesn't one-shot you unless you fuck up.
He needs nerfs. He needs nerfs. He needs huge fking nerfs.
Astôlfo2 votesYeah yeah whatever you say buddy. Something like you obviously isn't getting it.
Bultz2 votesYeah yeah whatever you say buddy. Something like you obviously isn't getting it.
lol shhh bronze 44 shhh you don't understand the game.
Astôlfo2 votesAnd here we finally come to the fallacy of the hypocritical rank bashing from the guy who knows literally jackshit on what he's talking about. How sad.
Bultz1 votesAnd here we finally come to the fallacy of the hypocritical rank bashing from the guy who knows literally jackshit on what he's talking about. How sad.
okay i checked you're history you literally lost like 15 min a row. plz stop. clearly you're lack of skill is enough for me.
Astôlfo1 votesWhatever helps you stop crying buddy.
BurningDolphins 2 votesVeigar should never be touched with any form of a buff. Him teemo and heim are in a little group of brain dead op champs. And it literally takes away the fun to lane against these champs
BIH Diamond2 votes100% agree
DiveAlive1 votesthe buff they chose will just snowball his cancer even harder if he gets a lead(fairly often)
redfeenix1 votesHmm if its more satisfying then by all means do so.
As long as you're okay removing some scaling on your ultimate ;)
BIH Diamond1 votesHe doesn't need buffs he needs a rework. No reason a champ should point and click onto me and 1 shot me
Astôlfo2 votesUh, no, he's perfectly fine. And he's not going to one-shot you with his ult alone in any realistic circumstance ever.
