What is Caitlyn's Counterplay?

ALL MłGHT·Dec 18, 2016·17 votes·1,715 views

Besides the standard immobile, squishy, no escapes ADC arguments that are general. Specifically to Caitlyn what are her weak phases?

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 18, 201610 votes

she falls off a bit after 1st back... she dont scale with the same items the same as other adcs... early...

her strongest point is early lane prior to going back to buy.

a champ that can push back hurts her to.. so wave clear is strong vs her so your not pushed under your turret.

her abilities have fairly long cd (outside trap) if she wastes her net go ham. standing behind minions reduce the damage taken from her Q

she dips pretty hard mid game , she is a champ if behind is terrible... ideally if you can have a jungler who can gank early and start bot side ... to make her burn summoners. have to back and lose cs the lane is practically won at that point

MunchCrunchLunchDec 18, 20161 votes

she falls off but how many adcs are actually strong after first pick. lucian. and lucian is weak at the moment. ezreal buys tear. vayne should be banned and isn't in this context. tristana follows same caitlyn pattern except shes worse in every way. and she counters lucian anyway because of lucian short range. also the only adc that counters her is sivir and that is because of spellshield. other than that sivir doesnt beat her early game either.

basically if you have a decent support you should win your lane 10/10 times with caitlyn

DisulfiramDec 18, 20163 votes

So, you need a long range waveclear adc who also scales well by mid game? Jinx

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 18, 20162 votes

jinx is a hard match up for cait , sivir has always been the anti cait.

trist can out scale her , trist is strong early and super strong late...

vayne out scales her

everyone cries about caits laning ... she has always been the go to lane bully of bot lane... and that is her identity but alot of other adcs can straight up out trade her.

they have MORE DPS then she does.

vs cait you just need to not let her snowball... she is gonna pressure and make the 1st 10 mins of the game hell... mid game team fights she is so easily out classed (unless super fed )

IN MY OPINION these adcs are issues for Caitlyn

Jhin Jinx Sivir Vayne

MunchCrunchLunchDec 19, 20163 votes

tristana does not outscale caitlyn what is this bullshit.

SpârkyDec 19, 20162 votes

she doesnt outscale but she keeps up with caitlyn and does very similar dmg and has about the same range (idk the exact range of max level trist)

SpârkyDec 19, 20161 votes

The only thing i see wrong with this is sivir and vayne. They aren't problems for cait atm when they should be. Normally sivir and vayne have something to deal with cait's range but all laning phase cait abuses her range over vayne and sivir and those two just get bullied out of lane.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 19, 20161 votes

vayne dont win lane you dont pick vayne to win lane...

you pick cait to win lane...

that is the difference

and sivir isnt what she was but if you can rush shiv and reaver she can still be worth while

StandgroundingDec 18, 20164 votes

error 404: counterplay not found

Papa AndreiDec 18, 20164 votes

OKay so no actual joke here, but Urgot

Hear me out here, His Q AA alone does more damage than her headshot early game. and more dps late game also if you can just unload on one poor sod.

If you can Land your E on her, shes dead, just fucking straight up dead. The E W Q slow will nullify her net, and she can just be brought down to 1/4 hp from full at lvl 3, if you have a support like brand, bard, blitz, braum even. SOmeone who can do more than Raka levels damage, you kill her. Take GHost not flash (IF you trust your support) because the biggest issue, is killing after E is down.

She goes to line up a Q, E her, W Q then go nuts and do a fatman jolly dance that makes gragas jelly.

MunchCrunchLunchDec 19, 20162 votes

lmao. short ranged urgot vs caitlyn.

lololol.

Papa AndreiDec 19, 20161 votes

E Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q QQ DEAD

MunchCrunchLunchDec 19, 20161 votes

let me just place few traps while you chase me.

Papa AndreiDec 19, 20161 votes

Side step. Urgot with swifties is actually pretty damn mobile with all his slows. and literally one E and two Q is less than half health with the right masteries. and it only scales from there

PlanetWarwickDec 19, 20161 votes

Weqqq ghost qqqq

AhristocatsDec 19, 20162 votes

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E Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q QQ end up doing ~~240 damage and oom

fixed

MissingKayoDec 18, 20163 votes

Dodge her.... never mind.

HeresyHorusDec 18, 20163 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

dodge her aa

get gud nub

sit kidDec 18, 20162 votes

Ban phase in champ select

SintamaDec 18, 20161 votes

The first 3 minutes. After that, she's extremely strong.

ALL MłGHTDec 18, 20162 votes

I guess I can't leash my jungler anymore.

Denims Wrath666Dec 18, 20161 votes

Sivir is ok because of spell shield Ashe good to pick cait off if you can land ult Kennen just stun her ass Yasuo cause this shit beats all ranged

DracocrashDec 18, 20161 votes

Her mid game.

Genocide VictimDec 19, 20161 votes

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Her mid game.

is pretty good.

ZelorxonDec 18, 20161 votes

Having a mouse.

SpookyNeedleDec 18, 20161 votes

She's weak mid game

DestructoDaveDec 18, 20161 votes

Used to be mid-game, but its really not that weak anymore with her traps and E giving headshots, and her general interaction with Runaans. All of that makes up for her Old Cait weak mid-game. Esp. since most other lane bullies are nerfed into the ground.

In reality, you pretty much have to outskill her in lane, or have a good support that outskills her. Thats the nature of her right now. She has no weak lanes, mid-game nowhere near as weak as it was before her trap/E rework, and she scales hard because of her range.

lolipopevelynnDec 18, 20161 votes

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Besides the standard immobile, squishy, no escapes ADC arguments that are general. Specifically to Caitlyn what are her weak phases?

Jinx and trist out scaling her is her weakness.

CasterGilgameshDec 18, 20161 votes

she is almost nothing without traps...also the second she has her net on cooldown shes a goner without a support also every other adc out DPS her at every point in the game unless they feed her.

ÇhåryzårdDec 18, 20161 votes

Morgana as your supp so you can safely step on traps...and yea that's it idk how else to help

DunkinNoobsDec 19, 20161 votes

Her Q is a huge part of her trading potential but can be easily dodged. Her E has a significant delay and can be interrupted by any moveblock. Her ulti is basically unusuable during all in situations. So much of her power budget being in her traps limits her positioning options. Her single target DPS is among the lowest of all adcs. Her skills, barring her traps, are increasingly weak as the game goes on.

concon60Dec 19, 20161 votes

Long range lane bullies. Varus is a solid option

SpârkyDec 19, 20161 votes

I like the idea but guess what? Cait is a lane bully. Shes the long range lane bully that counters shorter range champions like Varus yes he has his q but his q alone isnt enough dmg early game you need to proc your w but to do that you need to auto cait. And if you step into auto range of cait you get out traded because of her headshot.

SpârkyDec 19, 20161 votes

I think the only problem with cait atm in my opinion is all her "hard" matchups are easy for her because of nerfs. Sivir is the anti cait because you can just push her in but she got nerfed and isnt as good anymore. The other two hard matchups for cait is Tristana and Jinx mainly because these two do scale just like cait does. Strong early and hyper carry late. I think that instead of nerfing cait maybe just tweak her a little bit and buff other adc's