TLDR: Last warwick nerf was unneeded

doublelift fg·Apr 27, 2015·53 votes·2,565 views

he was balanced/bad spot due to lee sin vi and j4. But riot still nerfed him and Hunter's call is shit now

34 Comments

UPfreelyApr 27, 201515 votes

here's what got nerfed on him since the season changed:

W - Hunter's Call DURATION: 10 seconds ⇒ 6 seconds R - Infinite Duress TOTAL BASE DAMAGE 250/335/420 magic damage ⇒ 150/250/350 magic damage R - Infinite Duress COOLDOWN: 90 / 80 / 70 seconds ⇒ 110 / 90 / 70 seconds

changes the drastically impacted him: Devourer MAGIC DAMAGE ON HIT: 40 ⇒ 25

Skirmisher's Sabre Basic attacks against a Challenged target deal 17-51 (based on level) true damage on hit ⇒ 60-162 (based on level) true damage over 3 seconds

Spirit Visage Cooldown reduction reduced to 10% (from 20%

He was definately OP, but now he feels really weak outside of setting up a pick here and there. I liked playing him far better last season.

LoerkaApr 27, 20155 votes

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R - Infinite Duress TOTAL BASE DAMAGE 250/335/420 magic damage ⇒ 150/250/350 magic damage

I want my 420 blazewick back

MohawkBirdApr 27, 20156 votes

He was nerfed too hard within 1-2 patches, both directly and indirectly. Especially that whole 4 second decrease to his W. If they had only changed the jungler items, but kept him the same I think he would be in a better spot.

Champion SkinApr 28, 20151 votes

Yeah that's pretty hard... it is a 40% reduction in duration

DeusVultApr 28, 20154 votes

Yes, Riot doesn't seem to understand that while warwick was powerful, he didn't need to have everything in his kit and items hit in order to bring him back in line

TomA3XApr 28, 20151 votes

Pretty sure he's down for a rework soonish, they probably won't bother balancing him for that reason

VDc0zCqe0wApr 28, 20151 votes

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Pretty sure he's down for a rework soonish, they probably won't bother balancing him for that reason

reason why this balance team is trash

Champion SkinApr 28, 20151 votes

Ehh... I don't think his rework will be that soon... it would be nice to... I don't give him some of his power back before his rework

like his W nerf was pretty hard... 40% reduction in the duration

VenowolfApr 28, 20151 votes

That was the 4.21 patch the "Destroy the wolf" patch, how forget it?

Obviusly he was overnerfed... much of the nerf are unnecesary, specially this 2:

W - Hunter's Call DURATION: 10 seconds ⇒ 6 seconds

Devourer MAGIC DAMAGE ON HIT: 40 ⇒ 25

This two are overnefed too hard and next to fix it.

The W on Warwick is a toxic ability that have a lot of hidden power, but they only took away when they Rework it, but sadly this is not nearly, so meanwhile they work on the rework, ww need another slighty buffs like this:

W - Hunter's Call DURATION: 6 seconds ⇒ 8 seconds

W - Hunter's Call DURATION: 6 seconds ⇒ 6/7/8/9/10 seconds

Because Actually is a overnefed skill.

In Devouerer

Devourer MAGIC DAMAGE ON HIT: 25 ⇒ 30

This can help him a little bit and all the other users of Devourer that are "nerfed" indirectly...

His R nerf are fair because, can do "on-hit" damage, the true damage on duelist smite is a "Must" because don't have any counter play.

But they need to fix Warwick or the core items on him.

KüramaApr 28, 20152 votes

He needs to have his W reverted to 10 seconds, because his clears in the jungle are slow as fuck right now.

Either that or have it buffed to 8/8/8/9/10 seconds.

His ult needs to be reverted as well.

VenowolfApr 29, 20151 votes

a flat 8 can work as well, his ult is fine, he need more power on devourer IMO.

KüramaApr 29, 20151 votes

He needs some damage on his ult too, probably 30/40/50 additional damage or something.

VenowolfApr 29, 20151 votes

Not his Ult stacks 5 on hit effects, so if you add +5 on Devourer base dmg you still adding +25 in his Ult, so you only need buff Devourer to put him in a good spot, obviusly his W too.

KüramaApr 30, 20152 votes

True.

VenowolfApr 30, 20151 votes

So WW need a Devourer buff only to recover a little bit.

OldypantsApr 27, 20158 votes

I agree, nerfing both WW's abilities plus skirmisher's interaction with his ult was too much. Nerfing just the devourer enchantment and Skirmisher's would be enough to make him not so ridiculously strong tbh.

AwoofApr 28, 20153 votes

They were super careful against any Lee nerfs with the reason "environmental changes incoming." (like 5 damage enchantment nerf, but I mean as far as I can see people stopped complaining about him since tanks took more spotlight)

Warwick's core items as to why he went super rampage are getting significantly nerfed? Better hit him hard in the wolverines as well so he stays down.

I don't know, like, at least be honest that you don't want people to play him cause of his kit, if that was the reason, which seems likely.

Auz the RipperApr 28, 20152 votes

But how will Rito let people know that they never want anyone to play him if not by hammering him into the ground like piñata?

WutsKrakenApr 28, 20152 votes

item 3718 was really OP on him

But yeah, his nerfs went too far. Warwick's always been either ridiculously OP because of some item, or in a terrible spot because his kit's terrible without said OP item. Hope his rework puts him in a good spot but keeps his whole identity of a strong sustained fighter

NilokApr 29, 20151 votes

Riot has a problem with nerfs that go too far and fail to rectify when they over do it.

2pudge1cupApr 28, 20152 votes

Riot doesn't want ww to be viable because they hate any point and click ability (but don't mind long range, short cooldown, low cost skillshots)

KüramaApr 27, 20151 votes

Agreed.

551202Apr 28, 20151 votes

Dont worry about warwick nerfs, he is getting a full relaunch (new model, vo, kit) like Sion . He is work in progress right now and Riot said that his relaunch will be for 2015! Because his actual kit make him USELESS (no cc etc...)! A Rioter can confirm this if you doubt about it :) Warwick

551202Apr 28, 20153 votes

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Dont worry about warwick nerfs, he is getting a full relaunch (new model, vo, kit) like . He is work in progress right now and Riot said that his relaunch will be for 2015! Because his actual kit make him USELESS (no cc etc...)! A Rioter can confirm this if you doubt about it :)

Anyway we will see if that Warwick relaunch (Sion lvl) announced for 2015 was a joke Yorick 8 months left Yorick

doublelift fgApr 28, 20151 votes

he isn't in their radar they said

KüramaApr 28, 20151 votes

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/What-happened-to-Warwicks-rework.jpg

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DanielzKlein-Final-Portrait.png It got shelved when I moved on to Azir! I had a kit that was decent, but at the same time we had spun up a Reworks team that has since brought you stuff like the Sion rework, and we decided that that was the level of rework Warwick needed to be truly successful. Since I had fitted the WW rework between two other projects (Xerath rework and Azir) I didn’t have the time (nor was I on the right team) to fully redesign him from the ground up.

I moved on to Azir, and the reworks team did their own list of prioritizations, in terms of which champion needs a rework most. Sion obviously topped that list, and while we haven’t had a rework quite as massive as Sion since, I think stuff like Soraka, Tristana, and Viktor have shown that we’ve leveled up what we consider a rework these days. Warwick will still get a full rework, and we may or may not use any of the stuff I was working on (with a tendency toward probably starting over from scratch), but other champions such as Poppy and Ryze are higher on the priority list.t.

Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/32nbo4/league_of_legends_2014_time_capsule_opened/cqdhulv

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Are-you-currently-only-working-on-Ao-Shin-and-Warwick.jpg

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DanielzKlein-Final-Portrait.png

Are you currently only working on Ao Shin and Warwick

DanielzKlein Final PortraitNo one is working on WW. I’m not working on Ao Shin. There’s a whole team full of super talented dudes that work on reworks (Sion, Soraka, Tristana, Viktor, Ryze coming soon etc), but I’m on Champion team, a team that makes entirely new champions. Back when I worked on the WW rework, the Champion Update team did not yet exist.

Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/32nbo4/league_of_legends_2014_time_capsule_opened/cqdiyse

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551202Apr 28, 20151 votes

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http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/What-happened-to-Warwicks-rework.jpg

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DanielzKlein-Final-Portrait.png It got shelved when I moved on to Azir! I had a kit that was decent, but at the same time we had spun up a Reworks team that has since brought you stuff like the Sion rework, and we decided that that was the level of rework Warwick needed to be truly successful. Since I had fitted the WW rework between two other projects (Xerath rework and Azir) I didn’t have the time (nor was I on the right team) to fully redesign him from the ground up.

I moved on to Azir, and the reworks team did their own list of prioritizations, in terms of which champion needs a rework most. Sion obviously topped that list, and while we haven’t had a rework quite as massive as Sion since, I think stuff like Soraka, Tristana, and Viktor have shown that we’ve leveled up what we consider a rework these days. Warwick will still get a full rework, and we may or may not use any of the stuff I was working on (with a tendency toward probably starting over from scratch), but other champions such as Poppy and Ryze are higher on the priority list.t.

Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/32nbo4/league_of_legends_2014_time_capsule_opened/cqdhulv

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Are-you-currently-only-working-on-Ao-Shin-and-Warwick.jpg

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/DanielzKlein-Final-Portrait.png

Are you currently only working on Ao Shin and Warwick

DanielzKlein Final PortraitNo one is working on WW. I’m not working on Ao Shin. There’s a whole team full of super talented dudes that work on reworks (Sion, Soraka, Tristana, Viktor, Ryze coming soon etc), but I’m on Champion team, a team that makes entirely new champions. Back when I worked on the WW rework, the Champion Update team did not yet exist.

Post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/32nbo4/league_of_legends_2014_time_capsule_opened/cqdiyse

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So does that mean we will keep that Warwick with no cc and useless jungler till lvl 6 for more years? seriously...

KüramaApr 28, 20152 votes

Hopefully they'll get to him by the end of this year.

Nidalee SO NYAAAApr 28, 20151 votes

He needs to be reworked his kit feels really old and not fun to play against

NarogApr 28, 20151 votes

he was Op with Devourer but they nerfed the item and him for some reason

Champion SkinApr 28, 20152 votes

They also nerfed the challenging smite... before it dealt damage on each hit against the target which worked really well with Warwick ult... but then they changed it to a DoT... which well yeah doesn't really quite work as well

RyvakuApr 28, 20151 votes

I think he is a awesome tank destroyer in this current meta. =o Nerfs aside of course.

Bears Dont CareApr 30, 20151 votes

THey are not reworking him anytime soon. They said it themselves, WW is not on the radar period. Enjoy another year of uselessness. Must be the IP cost.

VenowolfApr 30, 20151 votes

Maybe need some time, like a year to see some new on Warwick