Ahri is, with extreme consistence over patches, one of dominating forces in soloQ, with god-tier winrate and pickrate. Extreme safety provided by her kit can not, in any way, be viewed as healthy gameplay. Why is she so immune to nerfs?
I know that the answer is "weebs", but I still want to ask the question.
Dynikus17 votesPatch Notes 1.0.0.132
Orb of Deception mana cost increased to 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 Spirit Rush cooldown increased to 90 / 80 / 70 seconds from 80 / 70 / 60
Patch Notes 1.0.0.134
Spirit Rush Cooldown between casts increased to 1 second from 0.75 Cooldown increased to 110 / 95 / 80 seconds from 90 / 80 / 70
Patch Notes 1.0.0.140b
Fox-Fire Damage reduced at later ranks to 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 form 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 Spirit Rush Damage reduced to 85 / 125 / 165 from 100 / 140 / 180
Patch Notes 3.13
Spirit Rush Base damage reduced to 70/110/150 (+0.3 Ability Power) (from 85/125/165 (+0.35 Ability Power))
Patch Notes 5.8
E - Charm IRRESISTIBLE: Charm no longer interrupts 'Unstoppable' effects
Patch Notes 6.4
E - Charm REMOVED STONE COLD FOX: Charm no longer interrupts dashes (Charm will still apply after their movement ends)
She's not immune to nerfs. She's just generally always in a decent spot and doesn't get overnerfed like a lot of champions tend to.
Penns1 votesThen she is immune to meaningful* nerfs lul
Dynikus5 votesBecause she doesn't need significant nerfs.
Charmed by Ahri2 votesThat's not even the full Ahri Nerf encyclopedia. Your missing volumes. So many of the same champions sit at top 20 win rate and have a measily dinner grocery list of nerfs. If that at all... Did I miss something... I'm confused ???
Dynikus1 votesCare to point out what I missed? That's all of her nerfs from patch notes.
Charmed by Ahri3 votesI'm adding to your point in a sarcastic but serious way. But sure here it is. Much wow. At this list. Zzzzz
V6.18
General
Bug Fix: Arcade Ahri's tail sparkles no longer vanish when switching between graphics settings.
Bug Fix: The heart in Arcade Ahri's taunt animation no longer sneakily switches back to her orb if you move the camera away and then back to Ahri.
Bug Fix: Un-smushed the tip of one of Arcade Ahri's tails.
Bug Fix: Arcade Ahri's right wrist is no longer of variable thickness during several of her animations.
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Bug Fix: Arcade Ahri's Fox-Fire wisps no longer move closer and farther away from Ahri as they orbit in certain weird scenarios.
V6.17
General
Bug Fix: Restored ambient swirly effects around Challenger Ahri's orb.
V6.16
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Bug Fix: No longer fires in weird directions when cast while the cursor is hovering over the minimap.
V6.11
General
New tail-turning animations for all skins
V6.10
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Bug Fix: Spawning less than three orbs when used at the same time as Flash.png Flash
V6.4
Charm.png Charm
Fixed an inconsistency with other similar crowd control effects - no longer interrupts dashes.
The charm will not take effect until the dash completes, duration permitting.
V5.16
Essence Theft.png Essence Theft
Healing reduced to 3 / 5 / 9 / 18 from 2 + level.
V5.14
Charm.png Charm
Bug Fix: Fixed a bug where Charm causes monsters to freak out.
V5.8
Charm.png Charm
Bug Fix: Fixed a bug where Charm was interrupting unstoppable effects.
V5.3
Orb of Deception.png Orb of Deception
Mana cost increased to 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 from 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75.
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Base damage reduced to 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 from 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 / 170.
Orb rotation speed increased by around 30%.
Acquisition range reduced to 550 from 650.
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Acquisition range reduced to 600 from 700.
V5.2
General
Updated recommended items.
Orb of Deception.png Orb of Deception
Ahri now gains a massive movement speed boost while her orb is traveling that rapidly decays over time.
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Base damage increased to 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 from 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140.
Orb targeting system will now attempt to acquire a new target if the original one is going to die from the preovious orbs.
Casting Fox-Fire no longer interferes with Ahri's basic attack animation.
Slightly reduced the time between spell cast and the missile firing.
Bug Fix: Fixed a rare bug where Ahri's third Fox-Fire wouldn't deal damage while her passive was active.
Charm.png Charm
Charmed targets no longer take +20% damage.
Baseamage increased to 60 / 95 / 130 / 165 / 200 from 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180.
Ability power ratio increased to (+ 50% AP) from (+ 35% AP).
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Spirit Rush is now more forgiving when dashing through or over terrain.
V5.1
General
Updated Classic splash art.
V4.17
General
Texture update to Classic, Dynasty and Midnight skins.
V4.12
Orb of Deception.png Orb of Deception
Mana cost reduced to 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 from 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90.
Ability power ratio on each path increased to (+ 35% AP) from (+ 32.5% AP). Total AP ratio increased to (+ 70% AP) from (+ 65% AP).
V4.5
Stats
Base armor increased to 15 from 11.
Orb of Deception.png Orb of Deception
Will now return to Ahri even if she dies or becomes untargetable before it reaches maximum range.
V3.15
Stats
Base mana increased to 250 from 230.
Base mana regeneration increased to 7 from 6.25.
V3.13
Essence Theft.png Essence Theft
Now heals 2 + (1 * level) + (9% AP) per enemy hit by the empowered ability, rather than granting spell vamp.
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Enemies hit with multiple fox-fires take 30% damage from each additional fox-fire beyond the first, down from 50%.
Maximum damage to a single target reduced to 64 / 104 / 144 / 184 / 224 (+ 64% AP) from 80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+ 80% AP).
Mana cost reduced to 50 from 60.
Charm.png Charm
Enemies hit by Charm take 20% increased damage from Ahri for 6 seconds.
Mana cost changed to 85 at all ranks from 50 / 65 / 80 / 95 / 110.
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Base damage reduced to 70 / 110 / 150 (+ 30% AP) from 85 / 125 / 165.
Ability power ratio reduce to (+ 30% AP) from (+ 35% AP).
Maximum damage to a single target reduced to 210 / 330 / 450 (+ 90% AP) from 255 / 375 / 495 (+ 105% AP).
Now has a visual effect while she has charges available.
V1.0.0.152
Stats
Base movement speed increased to 330 from 305.
V1.0.0.142
Essence Theft.png Essence Theft
No longer occasionally allows Ahri to spell vamp off more than one spell.
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Damage now matches the tooltip.
V1.0.0.140b
Fox-Fire.png Fox-Fire
Base damage reduced to 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 from 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160.
Ability power ratio increased to 0.4 from 0.375.
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Base damage reduced to 85 / 125 / 165 from 100 / 140 / 180.
Ability power ratio increased to 0.35 from 0.3.
V1.0.0.134
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
The allied HUD indicator will now remain green until all 3 spell casts are used.
Cooldown increased to 110 / 95 / 80 seconds from 90 / 80 / 70.
Cooldown between casts increased to 1 second from 0.75.
V1.0.0.132
Orb of Deception.png Orb of Deception
Mana cost increased to 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80.
Spirit Rush.png Spirit Rush
Cooldown increased to 90 / 80 / 70 seconds from 80 / 70 / 60.
SlytherinUmbreon1 votesGeneral New tail-turning animations for all skins
Of course
Charmed by Ahri1 votesI think lissandra was first. Ice witch with sass. Her hair. Goodness.
Charmed by Ahri1 votesLooking over the series of nerfs, definently would reccomend focusing on balancing other champions. I mean every single spell in her kit has been attacked. Looked at and altered. Meanwhile so many other champions have yet to see the same attention.
Penns2 votesAhri main spotted Kappa
DKM Bismarck1 votesThat it's not her full nerf encyclopedia and that she consistently remains as one of if not THE highest winrate mid and highest playrate mid in soloq, may give you an idea of the power of this champion. Hint: very damn strong, and she always has been.
Zero Skill Tank2 votesSo uhhh... in last 3 years she received 2 BUGFIXES, while being extremely dominant in solo queue nearly all the time.
That's pretty much what one would call "immune to nerfs".
In any way, even if you missed something, those nerfs as clearly not enough to put her on par with other midlaners. Quality > quantity.
Dynikus10 votesShe doesn't need more significant nerfs because she's already on par with other midlaners. She's good in solo queue, and likely always will be. But she's not overly oppressive or unhealthy. The reason she doesn't receive major changes is she's actually decently balanced.
Troll for Trump3 votesShe has more counterplay in her kit than a lot of champs, since so much revolves around skillshots.
You could argue the same for Ez, but the difference is his interaction with Sheen items, since Autoattacks are targeted. When IBG Ez was popular, you would just need to get IBG, and it would remove the "skill" part from skillshots
Ralanr2 votesThe only thing I don't like about her kit is her foxfire. Everything else is rather fine.
Troll for Trump1 votesFoxfire +TLD is annoying.
Other than the name "foxfire" it doesn't really synergize with her kit. I get you can get close to people with your R, but still.
WalkingInACircle2 votesIts a deliberately weak ability. Ahri is required to get close to have kill pressure. Doing this without getting CCed is a lot of playing her.
iLLp1 votesPatch Notes 1.0.0.132
Orb of Deception mana cost increased to 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 from 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 Spirit Rush cooldown increased to 90 / 80 / 70 seconds from 80 / 70 / 60
Patch Notes 1.0.0.134
Spirit Rush Cooldown between casts increased to 1 second from 0.75 Cooldown increased to 110 / 95 / 80 seconds from 90 / 80 / 70
Patch Notes 1.0.0.140b
Fox-Fire Damage reduced at later ranks to 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 form 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 Spirit Rush Damage reduced to 85 / 125 / 165 from 100 / 140 / 180
Patch Notes 3.13
Spirit Rush Base damage reduced to 70/110/150 (+0.3 Ability Power) (from 85/125/165 (+0.35 Ability Power))
Patch Notes 5.8
E - Charm IRRESISTIBLE: Charm no longer interrupts 'Unstoppable' effects
Patch Notes 6.4
E - Charm REMOVED STONE COLD FOX: Charm no longer interrupts dashes (Charm will still apply after their movement ends)
She's not immune to nerfs. She's just generally always in a decent spot and doesn't get overnerfed like a lot of champions tend to.
by immune to nerfs he meant the champion still being effective despite nerfs at least that is what i interpreted
2Charmnot2Charm3 votes[{quoted}](name=o f u c k,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OT6HUQuf,comment-id=00030004,timestamp=2016-12-25T02:19:49.961+0000)
by immune to nerfs he meant the champion still being effective despite nerfs at least that is what i interpreted
No he means he wants ahri gutted because he can't handle her, just like the rest of the players making ahri nerf threads.
ValyrianBlade10 votesAhri is, with extreme consistence over patches, one of dominating forces in soloQ, with god-tier winrate and pickrate. Extreme safety provided by her kit can not, in any way, be viewed as healthy gameplay. Why is she so immune to nerfs?
I know that the answer is "weebs", but I still want to ask the question.
Ahri's biggest weakness isn't so much a weakness, but a lack of strengths.
She's safe, although not the safest. She's a lot more susceptible to pre-6 ganks and targeted CC than most champions are. Excluding that safety though, she's really not "great" at anything. Her damage is mediocre at best - she's largely outdamaged by other mages who have larger range spells. She's as squishy as anyone. She's really skillshot reliant (yes, W and R are targeting but Q and E are the real core of her kit). She's a jack-of-all-trades master-of-none who is never the wrong choice, but also never the optimal choice for any team. She's got a high win rate and pick rate because of that though, being usable in every situation means that someone can choose to main her and play her in every situation and get really good at her and stick with her.
MagicFlyingLlama8 votesR easily dodges nerfs.
Raxistaicho7 votesShe's not nerfed massively because she's actually balanced and you're in the trap of assuming that winrate = strength.
Ryze and Azir, even at their most broken points, usually had sub-50% win rates. Are you gonna tell me those two champions weren't broken as fuck?
Ahri has a higher win rate than most because she's easy to pick up, but her win rate only fluctuates from 48 to 55% between 0 and 125 games. Ryze goes from 42% to 60%. Syndra goes from 45% to 60-f***ing-4%. I'm sure you'd call both balanced to garbage just from first glance.
She's balanced. You just can't properly read winrates so you don't realize it. /Topic.
WalkingInACircle6 votesBecause she's balanced.
rtbf761092716 voteslol yup
Her being strong is a product of the meta. She hasnt been changed in so long. She is hard to gank (gank all day snowball lanes meta) does true damage (poppy nautilus) and can cc initiators really well with charm
Before preseason she was average. Now she is just good becuase the meta suites her. That doesnt call for nerfs imo
Derfel5 votesMost of the plebs that play this game refuse to believe this, but Ahri infact does sell infinitely more skins than Veigar and as such gets much more favorable treatment in terms of balancing. It's why Ahri got 300 bonus MS as compensation for the DFG removal and Veigar got deleted from the game.
Mordepool4 votesWhere have you been for the last 4 years
Silly Neeko4 votesOr you just are not good at mid. You sound like a mid main that cant lane against ahri.
You know people used to say the same about Zed but now Zed is not complained about anymore because of items being changed around? Yeah, zed wasnt nerfed, items didnt fit him anymore. Ahri is versitile and is not set in a single kit like someone such as Zed.
Out of curiosity though, i havent checked, but are you a zed main? I just used him as an example because he was a pretty classic "complain complain complain complain complain" forum pick.
MagicFlyingLlama2 votesInterestingly, if a zed main cant win lane 9 out of 10 times against ahri, they should probably not be playing this game.
SlytherinUmbreon1 votesHe got nerfed actually, the big recast ult delay one. Not sure if it was before or after the item changes, though.
DoktorKaiser1 votesOr you just are not good at mid. You sound like a mid main that cant lane against ahri.
You know people used to say the same about Zed but now Zed is not complained about anymore because of items being changed around? Yeah, zed wasnt nerfed, items didnt fit him anymore. Ahri is versitile and is not set in a single kit like someone such as Zed.
Out of curiosity though, i havent checked, but are you a zed main? I just used him as an example because he was a pretty classic "complain complain complain complain complain" forum pick.
Zed and Ahri actually share the same problem when they are strong in the meta and that is that they can kill you without hitting their primary skillshots. I cant count how many times a noob Ahri killed me by ulting around me and spamming W, missing both procs of Q and ofc missing the charm. Same thing with Zed, he can 1 shot you with his ulti by just hitting E and 2 autos. Curently Zed is nerfed, but Ahri still remains, my sugestion is remove the ulti damage part and buff something else, maybe her late game damage which honestly isnt as great as many other mage's.
Bârd4 votesThe same reason why Vel'koz doesn't get nerfed.
SHE IS BALANCED.
IcyPepper3 votesI know that the answer is "weebs"
It's not just weebs, some people just like being dominated
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Targon3 votesIn my opinion, Ahri is one of those champions who is strong when she has a lead, but not invincible. Maybe that is why she doesn't get nerfs.
Divewing3 votesBecause she's fair.
She leads with a skillshot, her poke is a skillshot, and the brunt of her finishing damage is short-range.
It's the opposite reason to why people complain about yasuo. It has nothing to do with how "strong" he is, it's to do with how obnoxious he is to play against.
Kukan Seishin3 votesHere is why she is balanced. Half of her damage is skillshot Her laning phase/early game is weak If she falls behind, her damage is actually pathetic Almost all of her counters are meta rn, aka assassins in general And then to top it off, the only thing she can really do is not feed in lane because of her r Otherwise, she is good in solo queue because she has pick with her e, and I believe pick is broken in solo queue, like blitz thresh naut and so on. She is hard to play in team fights as she is a medium range assassin Thanks for listening. Ahri main here :)
Remove Jungle2 votesthe answer is not weebs.
Cuz YASUO
Only Play Darius1 votesFemale characters get different treatment
IcyPepper4 votes
I'm calling bullshit.
Popularity does factor in, but not their goddamn gender.
Hauling Ashe3 votesAshe main, can confirm.
Xeruon1 votesFemale Champs don't get special treatment, otherwise Kalista wouldn't be in the deepest dumpster.
Waifubait champions get special treatment, just so happens that Ahri is the #1 Waifubait.
YCitizenSnipsY3 votesStill wrong considering Nidalee is in the dumpster right now.
Risk of Fate2 votesBecause I think any changes to her kit would probably kill her entirely.
If you remove the movement speed buff on her Q, now 
can now catch and kill her. This goes for her dashes on R, but more about that later.
W doesn't do any noticeable damage and provides a form of protection on being engaged.
E will admit is strong, but It's not comparable to Morgana's Q which lasts for 3. When Opressor was a mastery, that gave her pretty free damage.
Finally her R which, while I'll admit is annoying, is somewhat balanced by it has only three real uses: chasing a target, escaping a fight, or re-positioning in a fight.
The thing I tell everyone is that if you can dodge her charm, they should immediately turn on her as she just blew an important engage tool and has one of two choices: commit to the fight or get out. Pre-6, jungler should be coming in to gank her and force a flash. Without it, she doesn't really have much escape and I've found myself at the mercy constant ganks to make my day horrible.
Tankier champs like 
can easily get on her to force her ult which is an 80s cooldown. Without that, she has no reliable escape tool so ambushing her becomes easy. If you can get at least 3 people on her at a couple angles, then you're going to get her easily. The worst thing you could do is RUN AT her which is just begging for a charm to the face.
I think Ahri is fine, but that's my bias talking cause I main her, yet I can see how she can be OP. If you have one on the enemy team, just gank her a lot, dodge charm, force her ult to escape and for the love of god protect the carry. Ahri is, at her highest potential, an assassin. She excels at 1v1s and at the highest 1v2s. She's an effective teamfighter, however her potential drops significantly if she's not on a squishy target.
SnugglePuggle942 votesJust sayin though I've been able to catch Ahri with Diana. In fact my favorite moon lady counters her :p
Risk of Fate2 votesWell, I mean she'd have an easier time of the job. Facing a Diana in lane is probably the only real challenge I get anymore since Yasuo pretty much abandoned lane for top. I miss my spar buddy. These days it's just LeBlancs and Luxes which aren't really that hard for me anymore. Granted LB does a ton more damage now than before, I just have to wait out the passive then go in.
AkabaneKun2 votesShe just got nerfed 
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GrReaper962 votesRemember Charm + DFG Ahri? Remember how Rito not only removed DFG, which was an indirect nerf, but also removed the bonus damage her charm gave? Hurr durr "immune to nerfs"
Big Tiddy Fox GF2 votesAhri is, with extreme consistence over patches, one of dominating forces in soloQ, with god-tier winrate and pickrate.
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god-tier winrate and pickrate.
She'd let anyone out of bronze if she was actually god-tier (even if she have one of the most winrate atm).
And she's simply on a good spot every time. A little remind: she got her heal and her E nerfed during S5, and her E was, again, nerfed during S6 (if I remember well, Lb doesn't deal her dmg, but that's probably me).
She's also played by bad players/first timers, so if we delete them, she'd have a very high winrate atm (like any other champ, but, w/e).
reaperteaser2 votesahri is kinda a poster child of league, i think riot tries to keep her steady as a sort of balancing tool for other midlaners
IA9hRfpP5q1 votesTargetless dashes :)
Elisheva1 votes
All immune to nerfs that change their gameplay whatsoever.