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I Hate Yuumi.

Zerenza··6 votes·2,003 views

I'm not complaining about her being annoying to play against or anything, i hate her design and how she play's. Here's what i'v noticed with every Yuumi i play with and this is also the reason i hope no other champion is made similar to her.

First: She's completely useless in lane against pretty much every other support.

She completely rely's on me to do everything for her, i have to risk my positioning to let her hit her Q against lanes like Blitzcrank, Pyke or Thresh. That's not good because of point 2.

Second: She doesn't have the same 2v2 power as any other support.

Losing trades is pretty much a given with her as your support since she can only heal twice and has high cooldowns. She has 1 less ability than most other supports at level 3 and the enemy bot laner/sup don't have to waist any abilities on her since she's constantly attached to you. This add's to the final point.

Third: She's a "Win More" champion.

Her lane phase is pretty much non-existent, it doesn't really matter what ADC you play what matter's is that the enemy botlane is worse than you, if their worse than you are then Yuumi is great! Yuumi works best when your winning because if your already winning she makes it a lot harder to kill you and her ultimate is really good, she's good when she's able to piggy back off of someone who's fed but her lane phase is so terrible that in plenty of cases she puts her ADC at risk of being pretty much useless since Supports dictate botlane so much in the early game. She lacks any really good poke like other Enchanter supports, she lacks healing in comparison to them as well even with 2 E casts and she lacks CC like tank supports. She's a jack of all trades and master of none and that really makes it a pain to play with her in the botlane.

What accentuates this even more is if she's on the enemy team, if she's on the enemy team and she happens to be able to make it out of lane phase with a fed ADC next to her, goodluck because she's gonna make it near impossible to kill the guy. If she's able to hook on to a fed carry she's gonna make your life a living a hell. If not, well, it's a 4v5 and she just gave you free LP.

The champion feels bad to play with and against, she's a glorified minion when behind and she turns carries into unstoppable juggernauts when ahead, that's not fun.

8 Comments

SuicidePlank3 votes

First: She's completely useless in lane against pretty much every other support.

Lol. A hard lane bully is useless in lane. Stopped reading there.

OtterlyLost4 votes

She is pretty useless in lane, especially against all in lanes like Pyke, Thresh, and Blitz. Those are the kind of champions that your positioning has to be perfect on. You can't risk your position just to allow your support to poke. And good luck surviving if you get grabbed trying to help said support; she literally can't do anything to help you get out and she's probably about to die with you because she can't do anything to escape either.

All of his points are fairly accurate points to be made about the champion. Against the right lane and with the right team comp, she is great. But she flat out does not do well against many lanes and her laning phase is definitely very weak.

SuicidePlank2 votes

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She is pretty useless in lane, especially against all in lanes like Pyke, Thresh, and Blitz. Those are the kind of champions that your positioning has to be perfect on. You can't risk your position just to allow your support to poke. And good luck surviving if you get grabbed trying to help said support; she literally can't do anything to help you get out and she's probably about to die with you because she can't do anything to escape either.

If they stand in hook Range, they can get poked. And their ADC tooo.

All of his points are fairly accurate points to be made about the champion. Against the right lane and with the right team comp, she is great. But she flat out does not do well against many lanes and her laning phase is definitely very weak.

And no, an undogeable hard hitting Spell + Comet isn't what I call "weak".

Zerenza2 votes

Her Q's effective range is shorter than all 3 of the supports with Hooks, and if your not playing a champion like Ezreal or Lucian, once you get hooked it's a 2v1 situation since Yuumi Q will be on cooldown for a very long time. Her E doesn't heal enough early on and let's not forget that her W is just her attach ability.

At level 3 Thresh has Flail, Hook and his lanturn, for example. Soraka has her Comet, Heal and Silence, yuumi has a mediocre heal and a barely useful Q that will be on cooldown for a long time after she uses it.

The primary rune page for Yuumi in high ELO is to take Aery not Comet, i'm sure comet does make it hit hard but it's still a mediocre ability in comparison to Janna, Karma, Soraka and Sona's poke spells.

OtterlyLost1 votes

Great, you poked them. But they're now in range to hook your ADC and since she just blew her big damage CD poking, she can't really do anything except heal twice and prey that her ADC can burn enough sums to get out.

And her Q is very dodgeable. You walk into your minion wave and she literally cannot hit you. Or you walk out of its range and she cannot hit you.

Malix Farwin2 votes

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She is pretty useless in lane, especially against all in lanes like Pyke, Thresh, and Blitz. Those are the kind of champions that your positioning has to be perfect on. You can't risk your position just to allow your support to poke. And good luck surviving if you get grabbed trying to help said support; she literally can't do anything to help you get out and she's probably about to die with you because she can't do anything to escape either.

All of his points are fairly accurate points to be made about the champion. Against the right lane and with the right team comp, she is great. But she flat out does not do well against many lanes and her laning phase is definitely very weak.

Hard disagree, her passive makes her strong against hard engage. Wanna rush in early, she can jump out with shield up, eat the hook, proc another shield and jump back into her ADC. She also has the luxury of not having to take flash for extra offensive summons

Her AA range is pretty long she can harass most lanes and poke them down relatively easily. The only lanes ive lost with her is lanes where the jungle/mid laner camped with you backup from my own mid/jg and theres not a support in the world that can stop a camped bot lane.

Zerenza1 votes

Not really, one auto from any ADC takes the shield away, sure blocking one auto is kind of nice but it's definitely not enough in comparison to other enchanter's. The other things you mention like eating the hook, procing another shield and jumping back take skill and unfortunately i have yet to meet a yuumi who has that skill. Your also forgetting that despite the fact that Yuumi can jump out to block certain skillshots she's first the squishiest champ in the game and second when she attach's to someone the enemy doesn't have to waist any abilities on anyone else except the person she attach's to. Usually in these 2v2's in botlane your trying to keep the support off of your ADC so they don't take damage from 2 people, 2 people attacking you at once is a lot worse than 1. To put it into perspective if your being auto'd by a thresh and a lucian at level 3 with a yuumi, your ADC will be taking 150 damage every time they both auto, remember they don't have to worry about yuumi at all. It takes 5 seconds to kill your ADC, that's without taking into account that they can use abilities, yuumi's heal also only heals for 200 with both casts, so at best your only prolonging your ADC's life by 1.5 seconds, maybe 2 with her shield added to it.

OtterlyLost1 votes

What. Long aa range. She has 500 aa range. That's not long. Many ADC have, standard, 550, maybe 525. 500 is not long ranged. Secondly, no she cant just jump back against a pyke, thresh or blitz as her dash, like all dashes, is disrupted by displacements. Two of those have displacements and the other has a huge, line stun that, even it doesnt stop yuumi, will grab her adc. And do you honestly want to take grabs as a champion who never gets more base health than a melee minion?! This is ignoring the fact that next patch, all forms of CC will stop her W dash. The champion is laughably weak to hard engage, particularly thresh. She absolutely can do nothing once she's hooked and her W can be stopped with his flay, putting it on CD.

The champion is absolutely useless in lane against champs like the ones mentioned above. She cant do anything.

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